Silvia S15

[LaZy4zNbOi]

Hey, I've seen tons of people post up wanting to do conversions to S15s and stuff and people who want to import S15s. I was wondering how many of you would be willing to buy a Nissan Silvia S15 that has no title or anything. But it is the whole car complete from front to back and it does run perfectly well (location in the states). How many of you would want to buy it and how much would you be willing to pay? (reasonable prices)

EDIT: This is just for curiousity reasons. :sun:

[Suislide]

MORE DETAILS PLEASE!!!!

[LaZy4zNbOi]

This is still sorta a long shot S13_Iketani but my friends and I want to build a car for senior project. It wouldn't be exactly building from scratch since i'm getting all the parts for a S15. The problem is we probably won't be able to get a title or anything. I have to do more research into kit car stuff. The thing is right now after adding up the cost of everything we were looking at around 15k. (importing the chasis from asia and all the other parts) We were shooting to make it just about 100% the same as any S15 in asia. But after we finish this project we will all be going off to college. So this baby that we build would have to find a new home. It probably won't be street legal... so its not like we could take it anywhere. I really believe that we can sell the car though for how much we put in. He on the other hand doesn't believe me. So he asked me to put up a poll. How much do you think we could get for this car? Then again it probably won't matter too much later on, cuz he's backin out of this project and planning to put his money into his own car. If we build this it'll be starting this winter.... finish by next summer... would be up for sale sometime in summer 2004 probably. Why you interested?

[Suislide]

oooh you're putting one together...i dunno about that then. not that i'm dissing your craftsman skills or anything, but i wouldn't buy a kit car that someone else built. i guess i'd rather import a complete, factory built one...depends, i guess.

[LaZy4zNbOi]

lol major components will be already there... I'm planning to get a S15 chassis with the S15 engine in it already i think i might go all brand new body pieces since there would probably be some dents and stuff in the ones in the junk yards. well it all depends. its not gonna be completely from scratch. Hey if i'm willing to do a few races in the car i'm pretty sure i'm gonna make sure its just as good as outta the factory. If we do build one and sell it, I'll make sure I get a mechanic to do a complete check up and everything. I mean this would be great for like a garage kind of use for off road and racing and stuff... yer going to check the car all the time making sure everything is okay. Well i'm hoping to hit lucky and try to find a car thats intact. I don't want to pay 15k just for the car though. Plus I don't want to do that whole importing through a Independent Commercial Importer and crap. they are just going to rip me off. i don't want any middle man. I don't kno. this is still planning phase. But I would really like to give this a go. I mean you can even visit the car and want to give it a small run near my house that's fine with me. i'm willing to take any picture of the car. i'll even allow you to see the whole car being put together the whole documentation and all. I have nothing to hide. I take pride in my work. its not like i'm a con artist. Yea i guess i understand the whole craftsmanship and everything. Does anyone know if there is a CD Manual out there for the Silvia? I have this Bently CD for my VW and it has everything on it, the amount to torque everything to and etc. i need to get one of these before i start doing stuff to the Silvia. keep posting me opinions and stuff... keeping in mind that the school requires us to spend at least 60 hours on this project. since i don't think i'm doing any major engine stuff... mostly just bolting stuff and little weilding, bolting on doors and body panels and boltin in some seats. that should take up 60 hours.

[SR20DETpower]

in order for it to be a kit car u cant use the Sr20det as its not a legal engine in the united States. Drop in a KA-T

LMFAO

you can import anythng with no tests and run it as a kit car as long as u put in a different engine that is certified in US.

example while back in SCC I believe they had a US legal Lotus Elise run against a Cobra R.......the only catch....the Elise used an Integra engine.

[SR20DETpower]

you could make that an awesome F"N project......

import a cheap S15 chassis from japan with a blown motor or something....

find a cheap KA24DE and turbo it and put it in there..... it would be road legal as a Kit car...... like any other old 1920's+ hot rod is........

[LaZy4zNbOi]

Ugh I just found out I can't import the chassis?!?!?! what the hell!?!?! It has to be imported through an importer? because a chassis is still considered a motor vehicle? well actually doing that KA idea would nice... if i could get the FREAKIN CHASSIS! grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr rrrrrrrrrr guess i gotta call up some places. anyone really kno the legalities about chassis and bodywork for kit cars?

[SR20DETpower]

if you had one imported that didn't have an engine in it I don't see much of a problem. check out companies that import cars from Japan.

it would still have to have plates, nessecary lights(which it already has) mirrors all the normal functoining stuff.

[LaZy4zNbOi]

Yea well thats what I thought too.. but after reading the stupid EPA Kit Car Laws... it doesn't work that way here i'll quote it:

"The production, sale and importation of automotive bodies alone (i.e., no chassis, engine or transmission) are not regulated by EPA since such units are not considered "motor vehicles" under the Clean Air Act. EPA form 3520-1 is not required for imported automotive bodies. A motor vehicle from which the engine has been removed is still a motor vehicle and is not considered a body."

So motor or no motor its still considered as a car...

"Motor vehicles" must comply with the Clean Air Act and may not be disassembled nor purchased in a disassembled form for the purposes of evading the Clean Air Act or the Imports regulations. " My actual original plan

Oh and this is what PISSES ME OFF!
"the vehicle imported by an eligible ICI who must ensure that the kit car body/chassis complies with all applicable emission requirements. At the present time, there are no ICIs eligible to import kit cars."
GRRRRR CAN WE SAY (Hmmm am i allowed to swear?) FUCKERS! (admin plz edit that out if i'm not suppose to swear).

[NSX-R-SSJ20K]

17.5 - 22.5 its about what they go for in the UK and what i'm saving for

[SR20DETpower]

its a hell of a car for the price......weren't they about 20k new..?

[too-cool-2]

actually the SR20 is legal becasue they used it in a FWD car. Even though they didn't use it in the 240, its still legal. The only thing to worry about is emissions, they wont certify you because of the visual examination.

[Shiftlock]

Very,Very soon you'll be able to get away with it in Canada.I know it is legal to import S13 Silvias now,but the 88 model came with the CA18DET,which I believe cars 15 years and older have a lot less to comply with.I don't know if their was SR20DET's before 88,but I know they didn't put them into Silvias for another year or two,but the SR20DET(S13) should be able to pass emissions.

[aumnsoccer]

Originally Posted by too-cool-2

actually the SR20 is legal becasue they used it in a FWD car. Even though they didn't use it in the 240, its still legal. The only thing to worry about is emissions, they wont certify you because of the visual examination.

yeah but if I'm not mistaken the N/A FWD SR20 in the sentra's is different then the SR20DET's over in Japan. Though it is legal the DET that you import isn't going to be...I think or something like that