dsm problems

98spyderman · #1 10-03-2009, 10:44 AM

hello again to all i am back and i have fixed my spyder again hahaha but any way i think that i am going to try to get a gsx or a gst. they are just better platforms to build on. anyway i live in a town of hondas and nissans and they talk alot of crap about dsm. they say that they do nothin but break. so this is my qouestion if i build the motor will i still have alot of problems? i plan to get on it a little but for the most part i am not going to . i was going to run 12 lb of boost. any info would be great.

eclipse78952 · #2 10-03-2009, 11:05 AM

i am sure everyone on here will agree with me, its not IF its going to break, its WHEN. the better you build, the longer it lasts. but this isnt true for just us DSM'ers. it just so happens that more people with DSM's beat the shit out of them and don't build them right.

Basically there are always problems when either converting from N/A to turbo or just wanting to run more boost on an already forced induction car(less on already forced induction cars of coarse). if you have the money, patience, and motivation, it can be a very well built, reliable car.

Remember: Fast, Cheap, Reliable. Pick Two.

98spyderman · #3 10-03-2009, 01:48 PM

i know that if you beat the shit out of a car it is going to break. on the other hand if the car is built even moderatly and you run approxmatly 12 to 14 lb of boost then i think that it is going to be ok. they way people talk about them you would think that all of them are just junk off the get go. so assumeing that you ran about 12 lb then could the car be realible? if you built it up a little bit?

Blackcrow64 · #4 10-03-2009, 04:57 PM

Internals of the motor may hold up, but the biggest problem is everything else in the motor bay going bad/breaking... At least that has been my luck since day one...

98spyderman · #5 10-04-2009, 03:12 AM

i have never had a problem with my dsm and i have had it for 2 years it is just the simple fast that if you beat the shit out it then it is going to break. i dont see were people get off by saying that they break all the time. i believe that if build the car then it should run 12 lb of boost all day long and you not should worry about it breaking. and if the internals are good then what else is going to break? whatelse is going to go wrong? my dsm has been nothing but good to me.

sganc4life_4 · #6 10-04-2009, 10:08 AM

Compared to NA engines, forced induction engines always will have more problems sooner or later. If you build for x amount of boost/hp/insert whatever else here, it should last for y amount of time isnt exactly correct. Theories always look better when you write them down but rarely are 100% correct in real life situations.

In short, expect to have to fix or pay someone to fix possible problems with forced induction engines/cars.

Oh and FYI, Im pretty sure the stock boost for GST/Xs are 14 psi. Just because its built for much more then 14 psi doesnt mean it will be problem free.

98spyderman · #7 10-05-2009, 10:01 AM

that is crazy if you build it to handle more boost and run under the max that will save your engine for a while and what else is going to break if the internals are strong? i understand the fact that a turbo motor will break faster than N/A but at the same time people talk like a dsm that is turbo will just fall apart from day one i am looking at a GST that is for sale and a 240 with a sr20det. so in that case which one would be better? i just want a quick car that is dependable.

Blackcrow64 · #8 10-05-2009, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 98spyderman

hello again to all i am back and i have fixed my spyder again hahaha but any way i think that i am going to try to get a gsx or a gst. they are just better platforms to build on. anyway i live in a town of hondas and nissans and they talk alot of crap about dsm. they say that they do nothin but break. so this is my qouestion if i build the motor will i still have alot of problems? i plan to get on it a little but for the most part i am not going to . i was going to run 12 lb of boost. any info would be great.

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Originally Posted by 98spyderman

i have never had a problem with my dsm and i have had it for 2 years it is just the simple fast that if you beat the shit out it then it is going to break. i dont see were people get off by saying that they break all the time. i believe that if build the car then it should run 12 lb of boost all day long and you not should worry about it breaking. and if the internals are good then what else is going to break? whatelse is going to go wrong? my dsm has been nothing but good to me.

Ok... Seriously? One post you just "fixed it again" and in the next post you have "never had a problem" with your DSM... Anytime one of us posts something about the things that do break on them you shoot it down like it's not true. Don't come in here asking advice if your not going to listen to us. Things break beside the internals of the motor. Bolt on items wear out with time. That is a simple fact of any and every vehicle on the planet. If you don't think so, well then you don't need our advice about anything...

98spyderman · #9 10-05-2009, 04:24 PM

my bad but what i ment to say about that is i have never had a major problem with my car all that i have done is the spark plugs and oil and tires and things like that and i know that any car will break with time and how hard you drive it. but what i am saying is that will it beark over and over again even tho i have built it

sganc4life_4 · #10 10-06-2009, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by 98spyderman

my bad but what i ment to say about that is i have never had a major problem with my car all that i have done is the spark plugs and oil and tires and things like that and i know that any car will break with time and how hard you drive it. but what i am saying is that will it beark over and over again even tho i have built it

Thats almost like going to a fortune teller to know what your future will be like. Sure I could say that nothing will break over and over again or you may have little problems, but we both know Im full of shit.

LandoAWD · #11 10-06-2009, 02:49 PM

DSMs don't break. Owners break them.

I've never had a DSM leave me stranded, and I've driven them for the better part of 10+ years. :knockonwood:

Build it, maintain it, tune it properly...the thing will last. Hell, I'm pretty sure my HG is toast and I'm still running 25psi (44lb/min or so) and making (DSMLink estimated...) around 500hp.

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