Brake Upgrade

carguyvr4 · #1 09-30-2009, 08:43 PM

OK so i'm trying to get brakes ans suspension done before winter hits?
I've figured out the suspension for the most part just need to get it ordered.

Now the brakes all around and upgrades... Been looking at the Brembo, The KSport things along those lines.. any type of input?

Also I noticed the 94+ have bigger brakes I have a 93 Vr4 would they fit and is it that much of a difference to be a good upgrade? I know the rotors are about .75 bigger ?

And what about just getting preformance brakes .. like DBA or Stillen or Hawk?

I'm looking to use the car for normal driving but also for the strip once in awhile and possibly try out the whole motorcross.... any input would be great

Thanks

Stealthee · #2 09-30-2009, 09:32 PM

Honestly, stock sized Brembo blanks with good pads will be more than enough.

carguyvr4 · #3 10-01-2009, 02:38 AM

Brembo blanks?

Stealthee · #4 10-01-2009, 09:31 AM

A blank rotor is one with no slotting or drilling.

quackmandude · #5 10-01-2009, 11:03 AM

go to ips motorsports, they have em. hurry cuz last time i ordered they told me they were gonna discontinue them soon...also another good reason to get blanks, if later when u need pads or the rotor warps for some reason, u can get blanks resurefaced...u cant get drilled or slotted ones resurfaced.

as for pads let steathee help u on those im not much of an expert on pads...theres alot to choose from.

as for suspension...megan has nice coilovers and ksports not bad for the buck either. i think supercarengineering hasthe bes prices, or pricematchedparts. and dont forget upper an lower sway bars if u plan on going to the moto track in the future.
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VR43000GT · #6 10-01-2009, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by carguyvr4

I'm looking to use the car for normal driving but also for the strip once in awhile and possibly try out the whole motorcross.... any input would be great

Thanks

Then I would highly recommend you save the brake money and buy a motox bike.

As for brake pads I recommend Hawk.

carguyvr4 · #7 10-01-2009, 03:31 PM

Hmm very true when it comes to resurfacing them... but aren't the drill and slotted rotors better for disapating heat better so they dont warp?

I've heard good things about Hawk pads also was looking at them along with diff rotor types? what about teh calipers stock is fine?

And i'd love a bike but really jsut don't trust myself on one haha

VR43000GT · #8 10-01-2009, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by carguyvr4

And i'd love a bike but really jsut don't trust myself on one haha

quackmandude · #9 10-01-2009, 03:58 PM

im four wheels all the way...

about the rotors, the slots and drills were origanaly designed disaptate gases when the old style pads got really hot. when they got hot they would produce a gas that would get in between the pad and rotor..they were not designed for heat dissapation. with blanks there is more metal to grab onto the pad as well as more metal to absorb heat, therefor blanks good quality blanks r usually the way to go (brembo)

now ive heard that the slots and drills r a scam, but ive read up and thats not entirly true, they do provide better heat tolerances for the rotor as a whole when there is some type of cooler avaiable. there r no kits for our cars but ive heard of some jerryrig kits out there. basically it funnel outside air to the rotors and calipers to cool them a bit.

anyways for ur case, and most 3s go blanks......and the stock calipers will be fine, in the 90s they were one of the best rated cars for braking.

good luck
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Stealthee · #10 10-01-2009, 04:10 PM

Slots and rotors are gimmicks. Rotors are a large heatsink. Less metal equals less cooling abilities.

quackmandude · #11 10-01-2009, 04:33 PM

yep, like i said they were originally designed that way for the old pads that would produce gasses wen they got hot. but new pads dont do that....get blanks bro
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VR43000GT · #12 10-01-2009, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Stealthee

Slots and rotors are gimmicks. Rotors are a large heatsink. Less metal equals less cooling abilities.

Well built (expensive) proper crossdrilled rotors cool faster. Less metal + More Surface Area = Cooler

Polygon · #13 10-01-2009, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by SL3000gt

Well built (expensive) proper crossdrilled rotors cool faster. Less metal + More Surface Area = Cooler

While your physics are correct it's a trade off. Does the rotor cool fast enough to offset the fact that it doesn't hold as much heat? I don't think so. There's a reason no form of racing using cross drilling.

Stealthee · #14 10-01-2009, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SL3000gt

Well built (expensive) proper crossdrilled rotors cool faster. Less metal + More Surface Area = Cooler

Not exactly. As stated rotors are a giant heatsink. Less rotor equals more heat to the rest of the rotor.

VR43000GT · #15 10-02-2009, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Stealthee

Not exactly. As stated rotors are a giant heatsink. Less rotor equals more heat to the rest of the rotor.

I'll look into it more but you are telling me the $15k+ brake kits on the exotics are for nothing? As I said, I'll take a look into it but I see no way that proper drilled rotors don't cool more effectively.

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