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Old 09-30-2009, 11:35 AM   #1
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Can Not Remove Key - Key Release Solenoid

Hi All,

Well i have been reading for the last 3 hours and i think i'm finally ready to ask a question. I have a '01 Alero, with Manual Transmission. For the key to release the car must be in Reverse. Last night is would not come out of the ignition, i drove around tapped on things crossed my fingers nothing. I removed the battery cable to keep my car from killing the battery and now am in trouble with the PassLock2 system i believe. But as read more my real problem would seem to stem from the fact i can't get the key out, or to the OFF position which probably screws up the PassLock2 intialization somehow, and i can't really do the 10min wait thing as i can't get back to the OFF position. That is the history.

So from what i read you have a solenoid in the shifter, a ke release solenoid in the ignition assembly, and a fuse for the BTSI system. So my thoughts are i need a way to bypass this crap, and just keep the key released all the time. I haven't been home yet to rip is apart but i have seen some great pics. But essentially was wondering if this is possible? Is there 2 wires on the ignition assembly that discretely control the key release solenoid, and if so can i simply cut and apply 12V to release the key?

Thanks in advance for any advice.
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Old 09-30-2009, 06:29 PM   #2
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Re: Can Not Remove Key - Key Release Solenoid

Okay, so i got home and start messing with this thing when i got home. I can see now my question makes no sense haha... there is actually a mechanical cable running from the shifter up to the ignition switch that controls the in-reverse release key thing.

Now the issue is the security light has been on for 6 months or so i guess, i'm assuming this must have happened when the car was running, and it went into fail enable mode, which allowed the car to still run. But when i unhooked the battery last night it is now screwed. I'm guessing there is either a break or loose connection on the YELLOW Passlock wire or the Passlock mechanism itself is screwed.

So now i'm scratching my head thinking of away around this. I could do the resistor thing as mentioned in another post to simulate the Passlock, but that is kinda of a shot in the dark as i don't really know what has failed, and if the wire is actually broke down stream then it will make no difference.

So.. my question now is.. where do the 3 PassLock wires goto? Guess first step is test continuity on them. And does anyone have any idea what resistance that would be?? I'm thinking i could just put a POT on there and mess with it till the Security Light goes out???

Any input guys?
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Old 09-30-2009, 07:50 PM   #3
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Re: Can Not Remove Key - Key Release Solenoid

Okay so in conclusion, this place kicks ass. I cut the YELLOW wire and put a 4700 and 2700 ohm resistor (in parallel are about 1500 ohms) between the YELLOW and BLACK wire on the BCM side. Then tried to start the car, after which the security light started blinking, i knew i was close. It turned off after about 10 minutes, turned the key and a way a went. BRILLIANT this place is great.

Here is the other thread i am referring to for future reference of anyone reading this. Thanks again, hope this will help someone in the future.

http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbul...43#post6043743

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