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Old 04-06-2003, 02:03 PM
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Changes you'd like to see in F1

What i'd love to see in F1 is:

Changes to Qualifying
More or less as it used to be:
- only Saturday counts
- drivers can go out whenever they damn want to.

If Bernard is really hell-bent on changing things in quali, i suggest:
- cars should be weighed before they go out, so the public can understand whats happening instead of guessing, which i personally havent found so much fun.
- 2 flying laps

Other changes
- removal of traction control
- manually operated gearchanges (paddles are ok)
- teams allowed to bring slicks, intermediates and full rains to each track

Feel free to tear these suggestions apart, or suggest your own.


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Old 04-06-2003, 02:06 PM
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I agree with all of your suggestions!

Can't really think of anything else at the moment.
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Old 04-06-2003, 02:14 PM
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Thought of something:

I want the regs to be less restrictive. Take engine configuration as an example. If someone wants to build V12, V10, V8, W18, I4, 1-cylinder, whatever - let them do that. Just not over 3 litres in displacement. And the same in other areas as well.

And I'd like to see cars that don't spoil the air behind them so much. At the moment overtaing in a much faster car is very hard because of the aerodynamic configuration of cars. Quite frustrating when "your" guy is behind and can't pass
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Old 04-06-2003, 02:26 PM
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Agree with one but not the other

I kinda like the fact that all engines have to have the same cylinder count, i dont really know why, i guess its "fairer" comparison

as for the second one, i agree with the idea but not the means of getting there. Cars should be as aerodynamic as possible irrespective of how much turbulence they create. it would spoil things for me if you capped that aspect of aerodynamics development in F1. However, you are completely right that there does need to be more overtaking. I think one answer to that is track design, i.e. not getting rid of glorious circuits like Spa. Bernie really is an ignoramus
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Old 04-06-2003, 02:45 PM
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Agree with one but not the other

I kinda like the fact that all engines have to have the same cylinder count, i dont really know why, i guess its "fairer" comparison
Not only that, but everyone having the same engine configuration means all the teams start on the same drawing board, at least you do know they all started the same place there.

The rest of the comments about rule changes all make sense to me.
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hrmm

I say make a standard safety car..

like a Mclaren F1, or a Pagani Zonda, or even a ferrari enzo..

that would be cool.

Actually the AMG whatever (I think cl500???) they had in brazil was mad!
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Old 04-07-2003, 06:59 PM
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Get rid of Bernie.
Get rid of Max.
Get rid of cigarette and advertising money.
Get rid of the restrictive technical regs.
Get rid of all the socialite hangers on.
Get rid of PR and PC.
Get rid of the safety car.
Get rid of grooved tyres.
Get rid of the flat bottom rule.
Get rid of mickey mouse tracks and their chicanes.

Basically lets go back to the late sixties/early seventies!
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Get rid of Bernie.
Get rid of Max.
Get rid of cigarette and advertising money.
Get rid of the restrictive technical regs.
Get rid of all the socialite hangers on.
Get rid of PR and PC.
Get rid of the safety car.
Get rid of grooved tyres.
Get rid of the flat bottom rule.
Get rid of mickey mouse tracks and their chicanes.

Basically lets go back to the late sixties/early seventies!
:hehe: I agree completely, except for the safety car thing. They really need to get rid of the flat bottoms and grooved tires!
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Old 04-07-2003, 07:09 PM
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Get rid of Bernie.
Get rid of Max.
Get rid of cigarette and advertising money.
Get rid of the restrictive technical regs.
Get rid of all the socialite hangers on.
Get rid of PR and PC.
Get rid of the safety car.
Get rid of grooved tyres.
Get rid of the flat bottom rule.
Get rid of mickey mouse tracks and their chicanes.

Basically lets go back to the late sixties/early seventies!
Great summary!
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Old 04-07-2003, 07:21 PM
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Get rid of Bernie.
Get rid of Max.
Get rid of cigarette and advertising money.
Get rid of the restrictive technical regs.
Get rid of all the socialite hangers on.
Get rid of PR and PC.
Get rid of the safety car.
Get rid of grooved tyres.
Get rid of the flat bottom rule.
Get rid of mickey mouse tracks and their chicanes.

Basically lets go back to the late sixties/early seventies!
I disagree on everything except the tabacco. Do you know how many drivers died in the 60 and 70s? Look how safe F1 is today, with that accident with Webber and the Alonso crash.

The rules are fine, these new restrictions for this year are making F1 more interesting, last year got so predictable just watching Schumacher drive away and win constantly. Ferrari doesn't like the new rules but the rules apply to everyone.
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Old 04-07-2003, 07:33 PM
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Hehe, I knew somebody would come back on the safety issue.

I agree completely. I didn't suggest we get rid of all the modern advancements in safety and technology. Just the safety car that is used way too often, including sometimes when races should be stopped but won't because it will muck up the TV schedule.

Rather lets see a field of cars that actually look different to each other, can run close together, in all conditions, drivers that say what they think, no concessions to the corporate dollar, on tracks that allow racing.

Doesn't sound like much like Formula One of today.

I mean look at it from a different angle. If Formula one is supposed to be so safe why allow a situation to arise when wet weather tyres are not available for wet weather? Or race on a track that has a small stream flowing over it? Or force drivers to use a 'safety' device that hasn't been fitted properly and paralyses their arms during a race? That is modern F1, don't sound too safe to me!
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and how the heck can they say that they care about safety when they forced groves on slicks. Can anyone tell me how making a car lose traction help improve its safety. their stupid argument that thei'll go slower in corners is stupid. If want to make it go slower put a parachute in the back of the car don't destroy the tires.


also what i would like to see back in F1 is ----TURBO
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Old 04-08-2003, 03:05 AM
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Basically lets go back to the late sixties/early seventies!
Well ok then, off you go into your sixties/seventies era!

And don't come back here anymore :finger: :finger:

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Old 04-08-2003, 03:07 AM
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Get rid of Bernie.
Get rid of Max.
Get rid of cigarette and advertising money.
Get rid of the restrictive technical regs.
Get rid of all the socialite hangers on.
Get rid of PR and PC.
Get rid of the safety car.
Get rid of grooved tyres.
Get rid of the flat bottom rule.
Get rid of mickey mouse tracks and their chicanes.

Get rid of all the guys on this forum who can't stand their hero not being on top of the game and keep on blaming the new rulings for that.


Now you all can shoot me! :finger: :finger: :finger:

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Old 04-08-2003, 03:09 AM
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and how the heck can they say that they care about safety when they forced groves on slicks. Can anyone tell me how making a car lose traction help improve its safety. their stupid argument that thei'll go slower in corners is stupid. If want to make it go slower put a parachute in the back of the car don't destroy the tires.


also what i would like to see back in F1 is ----TURBO
1. Webber and Alonso escaping nearly unhurt those wrecks sounds like pretty safe to me
2. Rules are what they are and it's the same for all drivers, soo
3. Turbo's: aha, that's what I called pretty unsafe...
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