Redline vs. LS1 round 2

[TorchedStealth]

Friday night me and a few friends were out cruising around and as we were going over one of the bridges my friend with the Z28 slowed down so I could get next to him. Now just so you know his mods are custom intake (pretty proud of that since I made it), SLP loudmouth catback, and tuned by me. This race he was on the stock timing table since he has been seeing some KR lately for some reason. His AFR is still leaned out to 12.2:1 instead of the stock 11.7 and all fuel adders (piston protection, cat over temp, etc., for anyone fimiliar with HPTuners) are turned off. My mods are in my sig along with a 2.7" pulley I just threw on, Hurst short throw, and more aggressive tune. We went from a 30 which was a really bad spot for both of us, especially him, but we had to do it kind of fast. He honked it down and I stayed next to him for about a second or two then started to pull pretty nasty. I shifted to 3rd at around 65 (my drag radials were still on since I had been practicing lainching, they are small so my gears are short with them on) and shot out a big fireball. I had about a car on him on the shift. I continued to pull pretty nice until I let off around 100 (so about 90, remember DR's). I had about 3 cars on him when I lifted. We slowed down and he pulled up next to me like what the hell! All I said was 2.7 FTW

It was a fun little race, but as promised I will get a video of us running from a better speed after I finish tuning him. I just thought I would share this fun

[VR43000GT]

Nice race man. Now that your track event got canceled do you have any plans to go back soon before winter hits?

[Big_red16424]

Originally Posted by TorchedStealth

Friday night me and a few friends were out cruising around and as we were going over one of the bridges my friend with the Z28 slowed down so I could get next to him. Now just so you know his mods are custom intake (pretty proud of that since I made it), SLP loudmouth catback, and tuned by me. This race he was on the stock timing table since he has been seeing some KR lately for some reason. His AFR is still leaned out to 12.2:1 instead of the stock 11.7 and all fuel adders (piston protection, cat over temp, etc., for anyone fimiliar with HPTuners) are turned off. My mods are in my sig along with a 2.7" pulley I just threw on, Hurst short throw, and more aggressive tune. We went from a 30 which was a really bad spot for both of us, especially him, but we had to do it kind of fast. He honked it down and I stayed next to him for about a second or two then started to pull pretty nasty. I shifted to 3rd at around 65 (my drag radials were still on since I had been practicing lainching, they are small so my gears are short with them on) and shot out a big fireball. I had about a car on him on the shift. I continued to pull pretty nice until I let off around 100 (so about 90, remember DR's). I had about 3 cars on him when I lifted. We slowed down and he pulled up next to me like what the hell! All I said was 2.7 FTW

It was a fun little race, but as promised I will get a video of us running from a better speed after I finish tuning him. I just thought I would share this fun

what's all those acronyms stand for?

for those of us who are not that nerdy about the under hood stuff....

[TerminalVelocity]

Good...GOOOD! FINISH HIM!...wait....you did....

Good kill man, really love to hear the little guys winning. Of course you are both GM....still though.

[VR43000GT]

Originally Posted by Big_red16424

what's all those acronyms stand for?

for those of us who are not that nerdy about the under hood stuff....

AFR= Air Fuel Ratio

DR= Drag Radial (tires)

KR= Knock/Retardation (of timing...I assume)

FTW= For The Win

[TorchedStealth]

Ha thanks alex.

And Im hoping to get to the track on oct 10th but its opening pheasant season and my family always goes out to some of our friends house a few hours away. Ill have to see what I can do cause I really wanna get to the track this year!

[99onI95]

I totally don't believe you. An LS1 F body will run a 13.5 at the track with a paper air filter shoved into it. If you can beat this car you are saying you can toast an Evo in a Saturn. They both are mid 13 sec cars according to the numbers from the factory.

If you believe my doubt is misplaced place your original post in an F body forum and wait for the insults, because they are coming. Anyone who knows LS1 F bods knows that once third gear is caught it's over. 1st and 2nd are tough because of tractions issues, but after that see ya! There is 320HP on tap, no waiting for a turbo to spool. It's there.

If you are telling the truth, then (1) the driver of the camaro is my grandmother or (2) you detuned his car to the point of non existance.

Am I talking out the side of my neck? Read for yourself:

"Stock LS1 f-bodies are 12 sec capable in stock form M6 with a good driver. Stock A4's ave ~13.4's in the 1/4."
http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/chevro...ile-times.html

2005 Evo 8 runs 13.6 quarter mile.
p52 Car and Driver Oct 2009.

If what you say is true you state your Redline can beat an stock evo, and I say that's a joke.

[AMGalltheway]

OFF TOPIC
Wow a living legitimate thread how rare!
Also post count plus one hee! hee!
ON TOPIC
I believe it.
1. detuned ls.
2. mid 14 second car (according to C/D)with mods and drags.
Also Torched needs to dyno his car and/or dyno tune it.

[VR43000GT]

Originally Posted by 99onI95

I totally don't believe you. An LS1 F body will run a 13.5 at the track with a paper air filter shoved into it. If you can beat this car you are saying you can toast an Evo in a Saturn. They both are mid 13 sec cars according to the numbers from the factory.

If you believe my doubt is misplaced place your original post in an F body forum and wait for the insults, because they are coming. Anyone who knows LS1 F bods knows that once third gear is caught it's over. 1st and 2nd are tough because of tractions issues, but after that see ya! There is 320HP on tap, no waiting for a turbo to spool. It's there.

If you are telling the truth, then (1) the driver of the camaro is my grandmother or (2) you detuned his car to the point of non existance.

Am I talking out the side of my neck? Read for yourself:

"Stock LS1 f-bodies are 12 sec capable in stock form M6 with a good driver. Stock A4's ave ~13.4's in the 1/4."
http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/chevro...ile-times.html

2005 Evo 8 runs 13.6 quarter mile.
p52 Car and Driver Oct 2009.

If what you say is true you state your Redline can beat an stock evo, and I say that's a joke.

You could write that same post with a VR-4 post in place. However, it is quite rare to happen. I have LS1 friends who will back me to the same extent. LS1's are mid to upper 13 second cars in general. A 12.9 is an exception and not the rule. Even slight mods can be a different story. Hell, people with just a boost controller ($70) have run 12.8's in a VR4 which to the untrained eye looks 100% stock. Even EVO's (not even the MR's) have been known to hit a 12.9 stock but I wouldn't consider this a rule. Just my

BTW, on a roll, I'd say this is completely believable even with a decient LS1 driver.

[TorchedStealth]

Eh here we go, a missinformed nutswinger. I'll keep this short for now since I'm on my itouch. He is on the stock timing table, just leaned out a bit as I stated. Yes I can beat a stock evo FROM A ROLL with NO problem. My car should be making around 275whp and 260tq at 2900lbs and I should trap somewhere in the 107-109 range. Um...we went from a 30 which I said was a bad spot, ESPECIALLY for him. With good slicks and a good launch my car shouldnt have much problem hitting high 12's, however I don't have the best tires so we will say low 13's. I hope to hit up the track in a few weeks. Also I said he has catback exhaust, not full in case there was confusion. My car is nowhere near stock in case you didnt see that.

Thats about all i have for now. Hopefully you will understand a bit and get rid of the stock LS1 > all mentality. I love LS1s and the cars they are in, but they are not unbeatable, especially in near stock form.

[VR43000GT]

Originally Posted by TorchedStealth

Eh here we go, a missinformed nutswinger. I'll keep this short for now since I'm on my itouch. He is on the stock timing table, just leaned out a bit as I stated. Yes I can beat a stock evo FROM A ROLL with NO problem. My car should be making around 275whp and 260tq at 2900lbs and I should trap somewhere in the 107-109 range. Um...we went from a 30 which I said was a bad spot, ESPECIALLY for him. With good slicks and a good launch my car shouldnt have much problem hitting high 12's, however I don't have the best tires so we will say low 13's. I hope to hit up the track in a few weeks. Also I said he has catback exhaust, not full in case there was confusion. My car is nowhere near stock in case you didnt see that.

Thats about all i have for now. Hopefully you will understand a bit and get rid of the stock LS1 > all mentality. I love LS1s and the cars they are in, but they are not unbeatable, especially in near stock form.

Werd. Light FWD cars with some decient power can be pretty damn quick roll runners.

[turtlecrxsi]

Nice kill. I believe it too with all the mods you're running (even though we all know LS1s were designed by Jesus!).

Got any engine pics of the Redline?

[TorchedStealth]

Yeah dude I can snap some pics. Not gonna lie you may be able to spot the pulley and torque damper, but everything else is hidden ill post a pic of how hidden my meth kit is too...im a sneaky bastard lol

[99onI95]

Originally Posted by TorchedStealth

Eh here we go, a missinformed nutswinger. I'll keep this short for now since I'm on my itouch. He is on the stock timing table, just leaned out a bit as I stated. Yes I can beat a stock evo FROM A ROLL with NO problem. My car should be making around 275whp and 260tq at 2900lbs and I should trap somewhere in the 107-109 range. Um...we went from a 30 which I said was a bad spot, ESPECIALLY for him. With good slicks and a good launch my car shouldnt have much problem hitting high 12's, however I don't have the best tires so we will say low 13's. I hope to hit up the track in a few weeks. Also I said he has catback exhaust, not full in case there was confusion. My car is nowhere near stock in case you didnt see that.

Thats about all i have for now. Hopefully you will understand a bit and get rid of the stock LS1 > all mentality. I love LS1s and the cars they are in, but they are not unbeatable, especially in near stock form.

"Misinformed nutswinger," typical, resorting to name calling instead of backing up your statement with facts. Noticed I referenced sites and a forum.

*********SHOW ME THE TIME SLIP AND VIDEO****************************************


Take it down to the track and back it up. I never once said an LS1 was unbeatable. So, I would appreciate it if you would quit branding people with "metalities" and back up your talk because until you do that's all it is.

Your trying to tell me that a T/A runs this and that in the quartermile, you have nothing to back it! That's your opinion! I referenced actual websites to back my statements, you referenced nothing and I'm supposed to take that for fact?

I compared your car to an evo to make a point. You state you can beat an evo from a roll, and I say your full of it. I'm sure you can beat a Skyline from a roll too, right?

[99onI95]

Originally Posted by turtlecrxsi

Nice kill. I believe it too with all the mods you're running (even though we all know LS1s were designed by Jesus!).

Got any engine pics of the Redline?

Kia Spectra, huh? I bet you sure know a lot about performance cars.

Let's take a look:
Kia Spectra
1.6L DOHC engine 107 hp
top speed: 115 mph

How long does it take that 107hp to get to a buck fifteen? I bet it's pretty quick, huh? Look, just because your car can smoke a Kia Rio with 93hp it doesn't mean it is fast.

Why are you even in this conversation? According to your signature you've never owned anything that has less than a 17 second quartermile time!