02 cavy headlight conversion

[shawnp1989]

so heres the deal
im shawn
im 19
i got a 2002 cavy 2.2
i want my first car to be my project car to see what i am capable of doing
so
with that done and said
i want to do a 95-99 headlight conversion on my car

the reason behind this is
i am looking at a body kit for the 95-02 models and it says
NOTE: On 00-02 models, you will need 95-99 headlights

so, i got me some
i started disassembling my headlights and tried to pop the sockets in
but low and behold, they don't fit
so knowing me, i am going to get down to the wire and wire shit up to where it runs right :]
so i ran to the local junkyard, got some 95-99 sockets and this time they fit
so now i have a whole bunch of wires that i need to wire

*note: the 2002 turn signal sockets have 3 wires (blue brown and black) and the 95-99 turn signal sockets have 2 wires (blue and brown)

after 9 blown fuses and about 3 days of work
i got the halos, LED's, headlights (low beams, high beams, and DRL), and parking going

now im stuck at the pain in the ass turn signal

i cannot find out how to wire it
on the socket
there is a blue wire and brown wire
and on the car there is a blue wire, brown wire and black wire

i tried everything prossible
i did:

blue --> blue and black
brown --> brown

blue --> blue
brown --> brown
black --> capped off

everytime i THINK i have it wired right, its not correct
- the blinker doesn't work if the parking lights aren't on
- EVERY light in the car pulses to the blinker when i have it wired up
(headlights, taillights, license plate light, interior light, gauges)
- the blinker slows down when i use it

*i DID replace a few 20 amp fuses with 30 amp fuses because the 20's kept blowing when i used the high beams or flipped on the headlights*

please help

best regards
shawn :]

[J-Ri]

Take those 30 amp fuses out of there before you start the car on fire... fuses are there to protect the wire from too much current. Most vehicles (especially cavaliers) have wires that can just barely handle the amperage of the fuse. You will damage the wire (probably melt insulation and possibly have wires touch ground or other wires), and there is a very good chance that the heat will cause a fire. NEVER increase the amperage of a fuse unless it's a life or death emergency... like you've got a broken leg and you're stranded in a flood plain that's got water rising up it and you keep popping a fuse.

As for the wiring issue... at least the issue that you're asking about... this is the reason you should always look at a wiring diagram before beginning something like this. The 95-99 have a single filament bulb which is on for parking lights, and alternates on/off for turn signal. 2000+ have a low amperage filament that is on for parking and a high amperage filament that flashes for turn. Not having access to either diagram, just stick your test light in the socket and see what each wire does. Just guessing based on my experience... if there's a black wire, it's ground. If not, the darker of the wires is ground. So, my best guess is that brown connects to black and blue connects to brown or blue, but get in there with a test light and make sure before you blow another fuse. You will not have a parking light on that corner because you can only connect one wire or the other, otherwise the flashing voltage will interfere with the tail lights and probably dash lights. It's possible to rig up an electronic circuit that would allow you to have both, but to be entirely honest, given what you did with the fuses, I think it's beyond what you can do. There may be something already made that's for sale... but I don't know. I may do the conversion on my '04 so I can use high watt bulbs for the high beam, if I do and I end up designing the circuit, I'd be happy to give you a diagram.

[shawnp1989]

hmmmmm, ok, ill do that with the fuses, but i can bet you they will keep on blowing, but ill try it

i went to the junyard and got some 02 sockets and reconnected it
so now they work
i drilled out the headlights so they would fit nice and snug
but the blinkers blink SUPER fast lol

owell, better than nothing

[J-Ri]

Higher than normal amperage makes bi-metallic flashers blink faster than normal, you may still have an issue with the wiring or bulbs.