Peugeot 206 1999 - WIP Update 19 July 2009

[ChillyB]

Here are a couple of photos of my ongoing work on Tamiya's Peugeot 206 from 1999. I'm using Scale Motorsport's p/e set and KA Models' racing harness p/e.

Comments, suggestions, criticisms, and anything else welcomed.







More photos can be seen here:
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v2...%20206%201999/

[MidMazar]

Interior looks sweet, but what did you use for the dash? Looks a bit too rough. I had good results using flour. I want to try out the microballons method other people are using as it turns out great. Also sms spray paint also is a good method.
Keep ud posted.

[guiwee]

Looks good my friend!!
Coming along nicely...good job on the shocks.
Like the rear details also!!
Hey mid you used flour? then what you painted it?
What exactly is the microballoon method?

[ChillyB]

Originally Posted by MidMazar

Interior looks sweet, but what did you use for the dash? Looks a bit too rough.

It does look a bit too rough. This was an experiment and I'm not 100% satisfied with the results, but happy enough to keep it in this case and to try it again in the future. This is done with spray adhesive and embossing powder with two applications of each. With a little refinement and finess I think this could work really well.

[rallymaster]

You've chosen a strange inaccurate way to dress the inside (dashboard, different carbon colors, "aluminium" rear ?? , inverted belts locking parts...) but skills are there.
Will follow the next steps closely !

[ChillyB]

Originally Posted by rallymaster

You've chosen a strange inaccurate way to dress the inside (dashboard, different carbon colors, "aluminium" rear ?? , inverted belts locking parts...) but skills are there.
Will follow the next steps closely !

Vous avez raison. I'm not going in any way for "accuracy" but for looks only. I don't care about fidelity to the actual car. It looks like it could be a race-car interior and that's all that matters to me.

[rallymaster]

Originally Posted by ChillyB

Vous avez raison. I'm not going in any way for "accuracy" but for looks only. I don't care about fidelity to the actual car. It looks like it could be a race-car interior and that's all that matters to me.

and it's far more a race car looking interior when built accurate !!

but I can understand your choice to build something "from your inspiration" or as you represent it.

I just said that because I saw "206 WRC 1999" in your title so I supposed to find an accurate build as it should be when building the car represented.
Maybe you should have noticed that for us, that you were going to reinterpret the car as you would imagine it to possibly be in your mind.
don't see it as a fault because I pointed that, that's just that I always expect to find the most accurate representation of those rally cars because it's how I and most of us try to build them.

Now I know you're not trying to give us the best representation of the 1999 206 WRC as it raced but to build your own inspiration of what could also have been the car.
And I'll follow that !

[ChillyB]

Here are some shots of the body. These are guaranteed to be 100% accurate in their representation of this particular Peugeot 206 as raced in 1999. I have replicated the actual car down to the very last detail. If anyone can find a single thing out of place or different from the original racer, please alert me immediately and I'll do my best to correct any errors.







I'm not quite done yet. And I intend to do some weathering to dirty it up a bit. But first I'll have to consult the meteorological conditions under which this race took place so that I might use the correct hues of dirt, dust, mud, et cetera.

[guiwee]

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.I hear ya man!! It looks great to me.
Did you clearcoat body?

[Seamus McRae]

Originally Posted by ChillyB

Here are some shots of the body. These are guaranteed to be 100% accurate in their representation of this particular Peugeot 206 as raced in 1999. I have replicated the actual car down to the very last detail. If anyone can find a single thing out of place or different from the original racer, please alert me immediately and I'll do my best to correct any errors.







I'm not quite done yet. And I intend to do some weathering to dirty it up a bit. But first I'll have to consult the meteorological conditions under which this race took place so that I might use the correct hues of dirt, dust, mud, et cetera.

You mean apart from the 'fog-lamp yellow' headlights & the unpainted tail light lenses? The headlights aren't yellow (in any part).
If anything there is a very faint blue tint to the glass due to the vapour given off by the Xenon bulbs used in these cars. The tail light glass is all red. For true accuracy you may like to paint the indicator reflector inside a light metallic green - a tip I picked up 1 year watching Marcus return to service at Rally Australia with his left rear smashed up. The TV crew showed this area perfectly.

[ChillyB]

Originally Posted by Seamus McRae

You mean apart from the 'fog-lamp yellow' headlights & the unpainted tail light lenses? The headlights aren't yellow (in any part).
If anything there is a very faint blue tint to the glass due to the vapour given off by the Xenon bulbs used in these cars. The tail light glass is all red. For true accuracy you may like to paint the indicator reflector inside a light metallic green - a tip I picked up 1 year watching Marcus return to service at Rally Australia with his left rear smashed up. The TV crew showed this area perfectly.

Yes, that's what I mean. Thanks.

[rallymaster]

Mmm you'll re gonna kill me for saying that but there are many things unaccurate...
Which documents are you refering to to pretend being 100% accurate ??
First thing I can say seeing you used a PE TK is don't follow and believe its building instructions !!!

Ok so as you want to know...
Some have already been pointed out so I won't talk about the yellow front lights, or the tail lights etc... :sarcasm1:

But, the hood air instakes are false like you did them:
- The naca one hasn't any grille but only is a "hole".
- The twins ones on the left don't have the grille so deep inside the hood like that, they are as molded by tamiya and have to be black.

The grille behind the lion is black and in fact all the grille are black, not metallic.

the rally plate isn't correct as it is placed, it doesn't have to end over the fender but stay on the hood.

I think that's all I saw...

And yes I can prove all I say and have all the pics needed for share to build it really accurate for anyone who want it so

And finally and mostly, don't take all of that as a bad agressive critic (I feel a little sarcasm in your post, as if you were upset by the "accuracy" notice), it's only a light on what to do to have it accurate if you cant it because as a Peugeot fan I know I have a lot of documents and references and am attentive to little details everyone may not know and building as accurate as possible is my trick as I had/have the chance to see most of them in action.
(I have 23 different 206 WRC to build btw)
And by chance I share all I have with anyone !

[ChillyB]

Originally Posted by rallymaster

Mmm you'll re gonna kill me for saying that but there are many things unaccurate...

And finally and mostly, don't take all of that as a bad agressive critic (I feel a little sarcasm in your post, as if you were upset by the "accuracy" notice), it's only a light on what to do to have it accurate if you cant it because as a Peugeot fan I know I have a lot of documents and references and am attentive to little details everyone may not know and building as accurate as possible is my trick as I had/have the chance to see most of them in action.
(I have 23 different 206 WRC to build btw)
And by chance I share all I have with anyone !

Rallymaster, mon ami, I accept all your criticisms in the spirit in which they are given: as the enthusiastic advice of an avid Peugeot Rally fan. I do appreciate it in the sense of having precise, documented, factual evidence as a basis for model building. At the same time, I'm not building accurate replicas of specific vehicles, but cars that look more or less like what they are supposed to. In this case, simply painting and decaling it as indicated in the instructions would be enough to achieve that aim. I like to add a few things here and there that add some scale realism, even if they are inaccurate in the sense of reproduction of some specific subject.

Yes, you detected sarcasm in my post showing the body photos. I've never said I was building a precise, accurate replica and you shouldn't ever assume that all modelers are doing so. Unless such a claim is made, such expectations on the part of others is necessarily going to lead to disappointment. You build your way, and I'll build mine. If in the future I were to attempt a super-detailed, down-to-the-last-detail replica build of a Peugeot rally car (as did Sam with the 405 T16) you'd be the first person I'd contact for photos and other reference material. Until that day, you can content yourself with cataloging the errors of us builders who fail to live up to your standards.

And for the record, I did change the taillights because they were bothering me (they look better in all red, anyway). But the headlights stay yellow!!

Je suis sur que tu es un mec tres sympa et je suis heureuse quand tu regardes cette maquette. Tu es tout a fait bourre d'informations en des Peugeots et mois j'ignore tout des rally cars. Acceptez mes remerciements pour ton interet en ma maquette.

[builder77]

Dont get frustrated you can learn a lot from this forum.
You doing very clean work and I would say your future builds are going to be great.
Still going to be a clean looking build on your shelf!
Keep it up.
Chris

[ChillyB]

Originally Posted by builder77

Dont get frustrated you can learn a lot from this forum.

Chris

Not to worry, Chris, I'm not in the least frustrated. I'm perfectly confident in my modeling skills (not to pat myself too much on the back, but I did garner a second-place finish at this year's GSL competition). But thanks for your words of encouragement, nonetheless.