Accident about ZeroPaint 2 Pack Clearner

[empire4th]

Dear All,

Just I paint ZeroPaint 2 Pack Clearner with 10:5:1.5 to mixed.

Please see this picture.




why the R8 looks like a toad？

I'm very confused about this.

Please,tell me how to paint it.

[klutz_100]

Originally Posted by empire4th

why the R8 looks like a toad？

Because it was designed that way......?

[cyberkid]

Originally Posted by klutz_100

Because it was designed that way......?

lol, I think he means the toad like finish he's getting... particularly visible near the front of the hood.

I've never had that with 2k paints....
guessing here: not mixed will enough? dirty surface?

@empire4th: maybe some close-up picks would help? 有近拍的照片吗?

[cR@Zy!NgLi$h]

Sprayed from too far back?

[empire4th]

Originally Posted by cyberkid

lol, I think he means the toad like finish he's getting... particularly visible near the front of the hood.

I've never had that with 2k paints....
guessing here: not mixed will enough? dirty surface?

@empire4th: maybe some close-up picks would help? 有近拍的照片吗?

I think I mixed it enough,and surface has been clear when I paint the 2x clearner.

[sjelic]

I guess it is to thick, did your airbrush got clogged in the process? I usually mix it 22 or 3 where 1 is hardener. It looks like you got small drops of clear all over because mixture were not atomized enough (to thick).

[360spider]

What did you use for the basecoat? Looks like paint reacted with the clear. In fact, it looks like as if 2K clear was applied over water-based acrylic paint.

[MPWR]

Originally Posted by 360spider

What did you use for the basecoat? Looks like paint reacted with the clear. In fact, it looks like as if 2K clear was applied over water-based acrylic paint.

That's exactly what I'm thinking. I don't use 2K clear so I'm certainly not an expert with it, but it looks like the clearcoat has dissolved the paint below it.

[empire4th]

Originally Posted by sjelic

I guess it is to thick, did your airbrush got clogged in the process? I usually mix it 22 or 3 where 1 is hardener. It looks like you got small drops of clear all over because mixture were not atomized enough (to thick).

Thanks for your reply.

I used "Finisher's super tool wash clearner" to wash my airbrush. I think it will be washed cleanlily.

This is second time I was use ZP's 2x clear coat.
In the first time. I use 21 to mixed clear coat.It has some cratered.
In the second time. I use 21.5 to mixed, more thinner in the clear coat. the picture is result. Too much ceatered. Oh my god~

I have a question. My mix step is hardener inject clear coat, thinner inject them,and mix it. The step is right? When I mixed it, should I wating a few minutes or paint it as soon as possible?

[empire4th]

Originally Posted by 360spider

What did you use for the basecoat? Looks like paint reacted with the clear. In fact, it looks like as if 2K clear was applied over water-based acrylic paint.

Thanks for your reply.
I use gunze #1200 gray putty to base,and paint Gaia Ex-02 gloss black.the silver is "Finisher's Fine Silver".

[joeyko2000]

Originally Posted by empire4th

Thanks for your reply.
I use gunze #1200 gray putty to base,and paint Gaia Ex-02 gloss black.the silver is "Finisher's Fine Silver".

how did you mix the clear paint?
did you boost the paint in your air brush? or did you mix it too vigrouisly making bubbles with the paint itself?
i did see some other local (HK) modelers around(including me...) doing Finisher GP2 with similar results....
i guess that is the way you mix the paint that matters the most.

another idea around us as we discussed about the 2K paints is that, did you clearn or polish the surface before the clear coat? or did any thing that did landed on the surface like grease or oil from your fingers?
i try very of my best not to even touch the surface after the base color is ready and before i do that clear coat layer. and most of the time i did it over the night so any "barriers" can be avoided between the two layers of paint.

[gionc]

I definitely think you use it too thick (as per manuf. indications, but the stuff is designed for the automotive market, to be applyed with wide (1.5-1.8 mm diam) spray gun): I done reducing experiment with this HI solid coating, I reduced until 2/1kat/4th (read 4! it is suggested almost nothing...) without troubles over a basecoat like Zeros: but I got troubles with decals and using much thinner it is necessary to take "hand". Reducing ratio I'll reccomend would be around 2/1kat/1.5>2 th

BTW: this kind of 2K are exetremely sensitive to ambiental sylicons and syl. contaminations on the part: sometimes a great cleaning wouldn't be sufficient, I got recently a trouble coating my F575 evo after having no troubles with primers, basecoats... I think a good solution would be the barrier done by a good 2K primer.

[Tervo]

Originally Posted by gionc

I definitely think you use it too thick (as per manuf. indications, but the stuff is designed for the automotive market, to be applyed with wide (1.5-1.8 mm diam) spray gun): I done reducing experiment with this HI solid coating, I reduced until 2/1kat/4th (read 4! it is suggested almost nothing...) without troubles over a basecoat like Zeros: but I got troubles with decals and using much thinner it is necessary to take "hand". Reducing ratio I'll reccomend would be around 2/1kat/1.5>2 th

I use Mipa brand basecoat and the same brand 2K clear. My thinning ratio is about 2/1kat/3 thinner, much more thinner than the manufacturer recommends (20%). No troubles with decals (Tamiya, Fujimi, Revell). Only drawback is that the final curing takes longer than with less thinning.

[gasdriverca]

Originally Posted by empire4th

I think I mixed it enough,and surface has been clear when I paint the 2x clearner.

YYYYYikes that doesn't look good!

[Decs0105]

Do you use your airbrush with a compressor? If so does the compressor have a "water seperator", from the looks it could be some water in the air system.

If I remember correctly the instructions from the Finisher's 2k paint say that water in the air system can cause the clear to make "pinholes" (translation ), bubbles etc...