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03-31-2003, 04:44 PM
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Wasted by GTP
This happened a few days ago, just haven't had time to post it up until now...
On the way to Kabuki's Thursday night came across a pretty good race. We were going down 460, which is a short stretch of highway about 2 miles long before you get off to head towards the restaurant. I was riding shotgun in my friend Sean's Rx7. Also driving with us were John in his 2000 V6 Accord, and Chris in his Sentra SER Spec-V. We get on 460 and John pulls alongside us in the Accord. We all knew it was going to be a waxing but fun none-the-less. Sean lets John take off first and goes right after him. He starts off high in 1st gear, and pulls even by second, pulls about 2 cars by third, and gains another 4 through third. Slow down after that and get into the offramp lane. I look back and notice and unidentifiable car fly past the Accord and cut him off, getting right behind us. We go around the circle and come out on the street and switch to the left lane. The car then pulls up beside us and we notice it was a GTP(supercharged Gran Prix). I tell Sean that he must have seen us racing John and caught up to play. And just so happens the light ahead of us turns red. Sean givs a slight rev and the guy returns it, just a little rev. The light goes green and Sean takes off normally, thinking that the race would go from a roll I guess(don't know what he was thinking, dumbass  ). The GTP guy takes off hard and gets a bit of wheelspin, but in the process jumps a ways ahead. Sean decides to go for it at this point and hits the gas. The GTP shifts into second I guess, and that's when all hell breaks loose. I'm guessing he must have had a supercharger upgrade or something, because that damn thing drowned out our turbo, our exhaust, our EVERYTHING. The whine was sooo incredibly loud and then the things just rockets away. Couldn't race very far because of traffic ahead, but by the time we are halfway through 3rd gear, the GTP has pulled 2 cars or so. Go two more times, both from a 30mph roll or so, same outcome both times.Am I just not familiar with GTPs? Are they that quick? Is the supercharger that loud? Sean has a downpipe and exhaust on the Rx7, that's about it. But still, I didn't know the GTPs could run like that. I think he may have had an upgrade, but I'm not really sure...
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03-31-2003, 06:20 PM
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Think about it, 3.8 liter EFI V6, supercharged. A little porting, and a smaller blower pully and you're making serious power. They already make 240-260 hp stock, and they are quite undertuned.
I think they have forged cranks as well, but I'm not sure. Either way, they have a lot of potential.
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03-31-2003, 06:33 PM
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03-31-2003, 06:42 PM
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A guy in STL has one that runs 12's all day long, I don't know what he did to it, but I can find out...
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04-01-2003, 01:20 AM
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04-01-2003, 10:06 AM
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Yeah I was looking up what the Hp was on those things and found that they were 240. There torque is at 280 ft-lbs. That thing must have had some type of major up grade to his car to beat the rx7 that easily. I mean really, Rx7 stock is at 255 hp but its only got 217 torque. There could also be a possibility that he switched out that stock supercharger and gotten one from rsmracing or something like that. I mean there could be lots of different reasons.
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04-01-2003, 12:54 PM
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Stock 2 Stock the X7 would work him for weight reasons. Now that guy must have done some work to his beast.
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#9
04-01-2003, 01:44 PM
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Yea that's what I'm thinking...Must have done a supercharger upgrade(smaller pulleys), or something to get some pretty good power out of it, because it definitely ran hard.
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#10
04-01-2003, 08:39 PM
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Yea, if I am not correct the stock 3.8L Supercharged puts out 240hp/280ftlbs and it uses the Eaton supercharger (centrifugal? not sure). The car is very under-specced, but they did it for a reason, they didn't want it to compete with the trans-am/firebird. However it seems for like 2005 or so, they plan on making it quite powerfull with some outrageous HP figures so far and with so nasty looking accents.
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04-01-2003, 09:01 PM
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Have you seen the new Jeff Gordon Monte's, blue with ghost flames??? Not my cup of tea (and I hate Jeff Gordon)...
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2001 Camaro SS #2239 of 6332 1/4 mile time: 13.575 @ 105.55 mph, 60' time: 2.276 307.1 rwhp, 330.1 rwtq = 353.2 hp, 379.5 lb ft torque Options: SLP Front Grille w/ SS Center Logo, 17" ZR1 Chrome rims, 6 speed, Hurst Short Throw Shifter, Monsoon 500 Watt Sound System, T-tops, 1LE Performance Suspension Mods: Holley PS Air Filter, SLP Air Box Lid w/ Mr. Ed's pipe fix, SLP CAI, SLP Bellows, SLP LM, SLP Y-pipe, SLP 160 Thermo, SLP Temp Module, SLP STB, KBDD SFC |
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#12
04-01-2003, 11:11 PM
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Yes, it has an Eaton M90 blower, which is running at a conservative 8psi... same story with the Thunderbird SC, which also had a 3.8 liter supercharged V6...
With a pulley upgrade, exhaust, and porting, you're well over 300hp, probable 350 or so. I've seen more than one 11 second GTP. http://www.clubgp.com/cgi-asp/qtrmile.asp
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04-02-2003, 02:04 AM
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maybe that sudden loudness after shifting into second coming from the STP was a shot of laughing gas...??
How much do they cost now?? I bet they're gonna cost a GRIP in 2005.
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04-02-2003, 02:09 AM
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04-02-2003, 09:41 PM
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I'm quit unfimiliar with nitrous.... does the engine get loud when one squeezes?
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