Upgrading rear swaybar...

[SilverY2KCivic]

Byt the end of next week, I'm going to be upgrading the 6th gen 13mm Civic Si rear swaybar I have on my '00 Civic DX coupe, with an '00 Integra Type-R 22mm rear swaybar, of which I have on order right now along with the proper bushing mounts for it, and the Beak's subframe reinforcment kit to make sure this bar doesn't mess up my subframe and create any tearout. I don't have a front sway bar on my car yet (I hear to get one on a DX involves swapping out control arms and crap, so I'd rather not bother with that at the moment). Going from a 13mm to an almost twice as large 22mm bar, what should I expect of it, and to encounter with it? I hear oversteer and particularly oversteer snap may very well be increased. I occasionally get some of that with my current suspension set up, but not very often (Tein "SS" coilovers, Neuspeed upper front strutbar, rear lower tiebar, Si 13mm rear swaybar). My car is pretty good balanced from what I can tell, I can induce it to either oversteer, or understeer at will in curves and turns. Will this "ease of control" be lost with the larger bar? Any advice or insight on this would be greatly appreciated.

For those wondering, I chose the ITR bar over say like an S/T bar, or a Skunk2 simply because for one it's OEM quality and design, not to mention it's WAY cheaper than getting either of the 2 mentioned bars. Out the door, shipping included I nabbed this bar for $83 and that's INCLUDING the proper sized bushings and bushing holders for the bar. The ITR bar you can retain the Si endlinks with, so I didn't have to fork out any extra $$$ for them.

[SilverY2KCivic]

No one has any insight on this?

[BullShifter]

I recommend using adjustable sway bars if available for your make/model. A FWD with benefit more from a rear sway bar than a front sway bar. Opposite for RWD. Also poly or better bushing are needed for the sway bars work properly.

Cheapier is not better as far as suspension goes

Check with Addco

[CivicSiRacer]

I wouldn't drive that car in the rain You are going to get serious SNAP OVERSTEER. It would be scary to drive especially if you don't autocross much.

I would definitely put a front bar on your car if you can.

[SilverY2KCivic]

Originally posted by jackasssi
I recommend using adjustable sway bars if available for your make/model. A FWD with benefit more from a rear sway bar than a front sway bar. Opposite for RWD. Also poly or better bushing are needed for the sway bars work properly.

Cheapier is not better as far as suspension goes

Check with Addco

Believe me, my suspension is FAR from cheap on any parts of it, exception of my generic rear tiebar. The OE JDM Integra Type-R rear anti-swaybar, while cheap in price, is far from cheap in quality. it's OE factory spec, so it's built to last with the car. It's cheaper because it doesn't have a fancy manufacture name to it, but as far as design goes, you can't beat factory spec.

[SilverY2KCivic]

Originally posted by CivicSiRacer
I wouldn't drive that car in the rain You are going to get serious SNAP OVERSTEER. It would be scary to drive especially if you don't autocross much.

I would definitely put a front bar on your car if you can.

Thanks for the tip. Man, I was already anticipating SOS (Snap OverSteer) for bad weather, but actually I'm expecting it for DRY road conditions as well. I know that if I get it with the Si bar, I'll for sure get it with the ITR bar. Any ideas on front swaybar? I know gotta change out some arm or another in my syspension geometry, but is there any bolt on kits to where I don't have to change any arms out that you know of? Doesn't like ST make a front sway kit for NON front sway equipped Civics? I figure in the mean time, I can take my car out to a wide open parking lot somewhere, and play around with it a bit when I install it to get used to it, so that way I'll know what to expect. I'm also going to be getting new tires soon, so I'm sure that'll help out a bit as well (stickier tires than I have right now). Thanks for the reply.

[SilverY2KCivic]

Got the bar and bushings for it delivered today, and eventhough I'm waiting till I get the Beak's Performance subframe reinforcement kit to be delivered soon here, let me just sy I'm already impressed with this swaybar. It's like WAY thicker than I imagined it would be, pretty heavy too (about 6 pounds I'd guess) and just seems like it's gonna be a huge improvement over my current Si rear swaybar I have on right now. If only I could find a high gloss green that'll match the green color of my Teins, to paint the bar with. Nah, I'll leave it the factory black color it came as.

[IntegraB18LS]

Well let us know exactly how it feels!


Kyle