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Old 04-14-2009, 01:43 PM
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1996 Bird Trouble Starting

Yesterday, as I attempted to leave after a quick trip to the store, I tried to start my car, but it stalled out before I could shift into reverse to back out on my parking spot. Tried again, and the same thing happened. The third time, I hit the accelerator hard as I turned the ignition and this time the car stayed running and I was able to make it home without a problem. I remember my Dad giving me that tip in the past, should my car stall

Anyone know what could be causing this? What should be looking at? I did get $20 of gas recently, so I don't think it's that. Any help would be appreciated!
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Re: 1996 Bird Trouble Starting

V8 or V6?
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Re: 1996 Bird Trouble Starting

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v8 or v6?
a v6
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Re: 1996 Bird Trouble Starting

Fudge... jumped on this as I have hard starting, and must keep foot on gas petal to keep it running. Won't idle for nothing. But it's a 96-4.6. Will keep MY eye on this post as it might be the fix for me also.
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Fudge... jumped on this as I have hard starting, and must keep foot on gas petal to keep it running. Won't idle for nothing. But it's a 96-4.6. Will keep MY eye on this post as it might be the fix for me also.
Try cleaning or replacing the Idle Air Control (IAC) vavle.

youjean tod - I'm not familiar with the V6 but if there is an IAC valve
you might try cleaning or replacing it.
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Old 04-15-2009, 12:56 AM
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youjean tod - I'm not familiar with the V6 but if there is an IAC valve

you might try cleaning or replacing it.
Thanks, will give a look and try to clean tomorrow. Wish me luck, lol.
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Old 04-15-2009, 02:08 PM
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Re: 1996 Bird Trouble Starting

Having some trouble finding the IAC valve. Based on JR's response, it's possible that my car may not have it, so I could be looking in vain. But I took some photos under the hood, to see if someone can point me in the right direction, if it is there. Thanks!

http://www.boomspeed.com/kunosama23/P4150071.JPG
http://www.boomspeed.com/kunosama23/P4150072.JPG
http://www.boomspeed.com/kunosama23/P4150073.JPG
http://www.boomspeed.com/kunosama23/P4150074.JPG
http://www.boomspeed.com/kunosama23/P4150075.JPG
http://www.boomspeed.com/kunosama23/P4150076.JPG
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Re: 1996 Bird Trouble Starting

After looking again, the only thing that looks close, based on pictures on the web, is the circled:




Is this it? Not sure I want to remove until I'm sure that's it, lol
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Re: 1996 Bird Trouble Starting

Success, I wasn't sure what a IAC was... but 96 T-bird manual said can't be cleaned. must be replaced. Got the engine management & ignition part which worked like a charm. Singing " on the road again " Thanks for turning me on to the right path. Oh, mine was on the intake manifold, where 2.3L, 3.8L and 5.0L are on the throttle plate.
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Got the engine management & ignition part which worked like a charm.
What exactly is this engine management & ignition part? Is it easy to buy?
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Re: 1996 Bird Trouble Starting

It is what I got at auto zone when I asked for IAC valve for a 96 - 4.6 V8. Had the guy print out sheet on how to install. In very small print it shows what it is... but it replaces 3 different systems on the idling of the engine. Sorry but print out is way to small to read. ( tried reading glass and magnifying glass to enlarge ) You will get a different one as your's is a six cyl. My cost was was in the low $ 70.00 range. I went to Duralast on my computer to get a better idea but couldn't get a pull-up on the part. I know this is vage... but the results is a smooth 1ST. crank start-up, and a smooth idle decline from fast idle start.
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It is what I got at auto zone when I asked for IAC valve for a 96 - 4.6 V8. Had the guy print out sheet on how to install. In very small print it shows what it is... but it replaces 3 different systems on the idling of the engine. Sorry but print out is way to small to read. ( tried reading glass and magnifying glass to enlarge ) You will get a different one as your's is a six cyl. My cost was was in the low $ 70.00 range. I went to Duralast on my computer to get a better idea but couldn't get a pull-up on the part. I know this is vage... but the results is a smooth 1ST. crank start-up, and a smooth idle decline from fast idle start.
Late, but thank you for response, got it!
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