What If The Bible Supports Science...

[Dorikin]

I was reading through some of my grandpas old notes and sermons(he was a Rabbi) and he had an interesting theory...what if the Bible supports science.

The "7 day god created the world" thing could be the big bang and evolution.

What if it wasnt 7 days....it could be 7 trillion years. Maybe the "1st day" was the big bang, the 2nd day andother stage in cosmic life, the 3rd, a stage in evolution etc. etc.

It could work...

[rsxer45]

Originally posted by Dorikin
I was reading through some of my grandpas old notes and sermons(he was a Rabbi) and he had an interesting theory...what if the Bible supports science.

The "7 day god created the world" thing could be the big bang and evolution.

What if it wasnt 7 days....it could be 7 trillion years. Maybe the "1st day" was the big bang, the 2nd day andother stage in cosmic life, the 3rd, a stage in evolution etc. etc.

It could work...

The universe is between 13 and 14 billion years old....so 7 trillion would be pushing it. But anyway, I think that "7-day" theory is stretching it a bit. You could really extend a lot of the stories in the Bible to almost any event in current history....ie: Look how many times the stories in the Book of Revelations has been applied to current events both today in the present with the war with Iraq and in the past.....

[Dorikin]

13 trillion was an exageration....

I wasnt meaning to be exact, i thought it would be cool though...bridge the gap between relgion and science

[supratuner]

i got tapes that support that the world and the universe cant be mroe than 8,000 years old, with a flood aobut 4,000 years ago.

there are thousands of scientific facts that support the bibal, in the 7 day, only 7 24 hour day plan, and the idea, that the world is only 8000 years old

One of the best is this: each year the moon is suppose to be hit with so much dust, that it creats a one inch layer of dust on it for every ten thousand years, scientists were scared that the space shutal would get barried in dust when it landed on the moon, for the fact that they believe the world is trillions of years old, the ship landed and every thing was ok, the man got out and made his walk, while every oen was cheering he called back and said the moon is solid, later when meassured, it was just under 3/4 inch thick

also, teh suns flame die down a certain amount every year, for our life and the past few thousand years this would have no impact, but if u go back billions of years the flames would have been so long that they would have been too close for any life on earth to survive

meteors die out after 10,000 years, so how are there any left?

Alos every single pre historic man even the ones in history books at school have been proven that they are fake, most of the time a man will see one bone, think it is a human bone, but it looked odd, so they say it is a prehistoric human bone, they make up a skeleton for it, put it in books, andd later they admit that it was just one bone they found and it is abnormal, later on usually proven, that it is jsut a pig tooth

[rsxer45]

Originally posted by supratuner
i got tapes that support that the world and the universe cant be mroe than 8,000 years old, with a flood aobut 4,000 years ago.

there are thousands of scientific facts that support the bibal, in the 7 day, only 7 24 hour day plan, and the idea, that the world is only 8000 years old

One of the best is this: each year the moon is suppose to be hit with so much dust, that it creats a one inch layer of dust on it for every ten thousand years, scientists were scared that the space shutal would get barried in dust when it landed on the moon, for the fact that they believe the world is trillions of years old, the ship landed and every thing was ok, the man got out and made his walk, while every oen was cheering he called back and said the moon is solid, later when meassured, it was just under 3/4 inch thick

also, teh suns flame die down a certain amount every year, for our life and the past few thousand years this would have no impact, but if u go back billions of years the flames would have been so long that they would have been too close for any life on earth to survive

meteors die out after 10,000 years, so how are there any left?

Alos every single pre historic man even the ones in history books at school have been proven that they are fake, most of the time a man will see one bone, think it is a human bone, but it looked odd, so they say it is a prehistoric human bone, they make up a skeleton for it, put it in books, andd later they admit that it was just one bone they found and it is abnormal, later on usually proven, that it is jsut a pig tooth

I don't know where you got your info, but it is all wrong. 8,000 years?????? We have carbon 14 dating that proves that there are artifacts and fossils over 30,000 years old. We have looked into space at newly forming stars, and can judge by that the universe's age is in the billions and not the thousands. Wait a sec, was this post serious or a joke????

[supratuner]

im dead serious, the bibal says 7 days, it means 7 days.

IMO carbon dating is BS

[rsxer45]

Originally posted by supratuner
im dead serious, the bibal says 7 days, it means 7 days.

IMO carbon dating is BS

I not going to go into a big religious debate with you but can I ask where you got your info??

[Dorikin]

Originally posted by supratuner
im dead serious, the bibal says 7 days, it means 7 days.

IMO carbon dating is BS

What makes you an authority on carbon dating? Its the most reliable stuff we have sofar.

P.S Fundamentalsim is saying 7 days=7 days

Many rabbis/priests/imamas debate what the bible actually means. DO you actually take it for face value

[taranaki]

Originally posted by supratuner
im dead serious, the bibal says 7 days, it means 7 days.

IMO carbon dating is BS

why should we trust the opinion of a guy who cannot even spell the name of the core document of the religion that he believes in?

Carbon dating is real,it's been proven,it can be demonstrated in a laboratory,and has been successfully used countless thousands of times.

Prove to me that you can create a planet and all of its complex and inter-dependent species of flora and fauna in seven days,and I might believe in the Bible.

[Dorikin]

As I said, I dont think it was seven days. Wasnt Noahs ark measured in cubits? Maybe 7 Days meant xxbillion years....

I think its open to interpertation'


Carbon Dating is real, the theory behind it is solid, and its held up through time

[crab]

Guys (gurls?), give Supratuner a break...

Everyone's got their own theory of how old our planet is. 8000's just one of the numbers, and I'm certain I've heard this number from somewhere before myself.

He's not wrong about Carbon Dating either, there ARE problems with it. Some die-hard physicists say C-14 dating is actually accurate to within a few thousand years. Beyond that, the decay curve gets funky and its behavior becomes unpredictable.

For starters, check this out:

http://www.angelfire.com/mi/dinosaurs/carbondating.html

Anyway, that's my .02

[rsxer45]

Let's forget the C-14 debate (though C-14 is accurate for things less than 50,000 years old), and think about this 8,000 year thing logically. You can realize that the earth can't be this young just by looking out your window at night. All the light from a lot of those stars would never even make it to earth in 8,000 years. The light you are seeing is millions and sometimes even billions of years old!!! The rest of your info supratuner also seems to be inaccurate. I have never heard anywhere in my life that any of the prehistoric australopithecines (don't know if that's the right spelling) like Lucy were proven to pig's teeth or something......and they weren't just small bones that were found either. Large pieces of skeleton (about 40% of it) and even a large homonid-like skull have been found.... I don't know how can mix those up with pig's bones.... I don't mean to be offensive but please tell me that you don't seriously believe a lot of the stuff you posted. It would make me feel a lot better. Otherwise, I am deeply appalled by the education system near wherever you live.

PS- I'm sorry if I offended you religious beliefs, but a some point you have to draw a line between scientific truth and fundamentalist religious teachings.

[Ranger_X]

Originally posted by supratuner
i got tapes that support that the world and the universe cant be mroe than 8,000 years old, with a flood aobut 4,000 years ago.

there are thousands of scientific facts that support the bibal, in the 7 day, only 7 24 hour day plan, and the idea, that the world is only 8000 years old

One of the best is this: each year the moon is suppose to be hit with so much dust, that it creats a one inch layer of dust on it for every ten thousand years, scientists were scared that the space shutal would get barried in dust when it landed on the moon, for the fact that they believe the world is trillions of years old, the ship landed and every thing was ok, the man got out and made his walk, while every oen was cheering he called back and said the moon is solid, later when meassured, it was just under 3/4 inch thick

also, teh suns flame die down a certain amount every year, for our life and the past few thousand years this would have no impact, but if u go back billions of years the flames would have been so long that they would have been too close for any life on earth to survive

meteors die out after 10,000 years, so how are there any left?

Alos every single pre historic man even the ones in history books at school have been proven that they are fake, most of the time a man will see one bone, think it is a human bone, but it looked odd, so they say it is a prehistoric human bone, they make up a skeleton for it, put it in books, andd later they admit that it was just one bone they found and it is abnormal, later on usually proven, that it is jsut a pig tooth

LOL, you sure you're being serious man?
I'd like to see your sources too.

[civic1784]

Originally posted by supratuner
im dead serious, the bibal says 7 days, it means 7 days.

IMO carbon dating is BS

It isn't BS, but when there was all the nuclear testing, we artificially increased the amount of radioactive carbon in the atmosphere, so we are forced to use the levels from the 50s... which isn't a big deal if you are measuring time in millions of years.

[jon@af]

Originally posted by Dorikin
I was reading through some of my grandpas old notes and sermons(he was a Rabbi) and he had an interesting theory...what if the Bible supports science.

The "7 day god created the world" thing could be the big bang and evolution.

What if it wasnt 7 days....it could be 7 trillion years. Maybe the "1st day" was the big bang, the 2nd day andother stage in cosmic life, the 3rd, a stage in evolution etc. etc.

It could work...

That just sounds too far fetched for my taste. But you can believe whatever you like.