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Old 04-04-2009, 10:12 PM
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car won't start

I have a 97 grand prix with 3.8 with 132,000 mile good spark new fuel pump new fuel pressure regulator. all parts from auto zone help
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Re: car won't start

Are you getting the 2 sec fuel pump prime at ignition to ON? How about fuel pressure per specs at the front fuel rail?



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Old 04-05-2009, 09:02 AM
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Re: car won't start

it is 52psi down to 46 w/ key on and 50psi cranking the engine
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Thats good and you sure there is spark? Did you get it scanned for any possible history odb-ii codes? And are the fuel injectors firing?



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Re: car won't start

I took the coil wires off and was getting good spark between the 2 posts. The codes that came back were random misfire, mass airflow & heat oxygen sensor #po135, po#107 and po#300
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Re: car won't start

Disconnect the MAF sensor and see what it does.



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Re: car won't start

I did that and still will not start
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Re: car won't start

Did you check all relevant fuses to make none are blown. Like to the PCM module and sensors. Check IGN1 - UH at the main engine compartment fuse box. 80 pin connectors at the PCM module?



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Re: car won't start

The fuses were all good and I did a noid lite test all good
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Re: car won't start

I was able to finally get it started and now I have 2 codes po300 and po502. Any suggestions?
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Re: car won't start

The P0502 DTC is an issue with the Vehicle Speed Sensor (VSS). Located on the right side transaxle extension.

How old are your spark plugs and ignition wires?



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Re: car won't start

Is the P0300 a history or current DTC?
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Re: car won't start

I pulled the plugs and they were soaked with gas. I cleaned them and reinstalled them and cleared the codes, no issues at this time. I am now thinking the whole problem may have been a bad fuel regulator dumping too much fuel.
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Re: car won't start

It could have. Did you replace the O-rings on the new regulator? (if it didnt come with new ones).
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Re: car won't start

yes come with new ones thanks for the help
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