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420A hesitates under load
Alright guys, I'm stuck. '97 Eclipse RS; drives normal at about 1/2 throttle or less; any more than that and the engine falls on its face. It just sputters and shakes and doesn't rev any higher until you back off the throttle a bit. It's slightly better at higher RPM's, but still extremely present. It seems to run better when the engine is completely cold and it's also cold outside. Idle's basically normal, occasionally you can hear a slight miss. I'm getting 5 different codes:
p0108 - MAP sensor high input p0113 - Intake air temp. sensor high input p0123 - TPS high input p0302 - Cylinder #2 misfire p0340 - CPS circuit ...it's a mystery. So far I've tried: New spark plugs New plug wires Checked coil resistances New fuel filter New air filter Checked timing New injectors Checked compression (~150 across all 4) EXTENSIVE searching for vac leaks, none found Visual check of all sensor wiring, no rubs or breaks I'm stumped; and I'm sick of spending money on guessing. Has anyone had a problem like this before? Any suggestions (fuel press. regulator? EGR? MAP sensor?)? Thanks for the help. Last edited by SpeedEngineer91; 11-28-2008 at 10:41 PM. Reason: more info |
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Re: 420A hesitates under load
Well it says you have a MAP and CPS sensor problem. Any problems with the MAP or CPS will normally cause the car to run like shit. Buy a shop manual at AutoZone and it'll show you how to test all the sensor with a voltmeter to see if they're bad or not. Test the CPS, MAP, and TPS. The CPS will throw the misfire CELs because it doesn't know where the crank is and doesn't know how to fire in correlation to it's position. I'm sure once that is fixed, the others should go away.
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Re: 420A hesitates under load
Mine '99 GS has the same issue
If I floor it, no matter what it will hesitate, and the rpm's nearly refuse to raise. and the CEL starts flashing. unless I back off to around half throttle. (if i put the car in 3rd, around 20mph or so, and floor it, engine will backfire, sounds like from the intake, could be valve issue?) I have my own OBD scanner, and it shows a P0302 engine code, nothing else. I have done compression, fuel pressure, and vacuum tests, all came up clear. Car has had this problem for months, frustrating me to hell! |
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Re: 420A hesitates under load
Welcome to AF!
Try changing your plugs first. Make sure they are gapped correctly also.
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98 Eclipse GS Turbo Megasquirt 2 - Holset HY35 Turbo - Built motor - P&P Head and Intake - 3" Turbo back - FMIC - Greddy RZ BOV - Walbro 255 - Aeromotive AFPR - 650cc Injectors - Fidanza Flywheel - Zoom clutch - 13" Cobra Front Brakes - AEM WB - Devilsown meth injection - 3.55 Final Drive gear ratio 1981 Chevy Scottsdale 1987 Nissan 300zx - Chump Car 2001 BMW 325i - DD |
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Re: 420A hesitates under load
New plugs, all gapped correctly, also checked the resistance of the plug wires and coil packs.
Thank you by the way. I've done many tests in my high-school auto shop and even my autos teacher and a neighboring school's autos teacher were stumped. |
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Re: 420A hesitates under load
Mine runs in reverse. When I gas on it hard it runs great, But at idle it wants to die. I have to gas on it for at least a minute before it idle's good.
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Re: 420A hesitates under load
within the next couple of days I will be venturing out to the local junkyard in search of a car with an in-shape 420a in it, then i'll probably just take the entire top-end off and see how much it will cost me.
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Re: 420A hesitates under load
Adam, check your IAC and clean your throttle body.
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98 Eclipse GS Turbo Megasquirt 2 - Holset HY35 Turbo - Built motor - P&P Head and Intake - 3" Turbo back - FMIC - Greddy RZ BOV - Walbro 255 - Aeromotive AFPR - 650cc Injectors - Fidanza Flywheel - Zoom clutch - 13" Cobra Front Brakes - AEM WB - Devilsown meth injection - 3.55 Final Drive gear ratio 1981 Chevy Scottsdale 1987 Nissan 300zx - Chump Car 2001 BMW 325i - DD |
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Re: 420A hesitates under load
Alright, but then why does my ecu record only a cylinder 2 misfire?
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Re: 420A hesitates under load
Check for a leak somewhere around the throttle body. I blew my throttle body gasket over the weekend and had the same issue actually. Feel for an vacuum around there or spray some carb cleaner on the TB and see if it gets sucked in anywhere.
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