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Old 11-10-2008, 05:45 PM
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wierd ideling problem on start up

hi..i have a wierd problem that ive been working on fixing for a while but i cant figure it out..its a 2000 firebird ws6 6spd.. i put a bigger cam on it..ported heads..headers and many upgrades..the problem is when i start the car on a cold start it starts up fine, like when the car has been sitting for a little while, but when i try and start the car when the engine is warm it wont want to idle out right away, it takes about 10 secs of surging to get it right..i cant figure out what the problem is..its wierd that it doesnt do it when its cold??? any ideas or things to try? any held would be good thanks

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85mm jet maf
85mm summit throttle body
85mm bbk ssi intake
fast fuel rails
30lb ford racing injectors
spohn strut bar
msd ignition coils
msd 8.5mm spark plug wires
edelbrock shorty headers
upgrade cam/ port and polished heads
SMG dyno tuned ( 375 rear wheel hp )
magnaflow cat back
slp y pipe
umi bolt on subframe connectors
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umi panhard bar
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stage 2 spec clutch
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Re: wierd ideling problem on start up

i'm assuming you had the ecm tuned properly for all those upgrades?
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Re: wierd ideling problem on start up

yes the dyno tune was my last upgrade so everything should be tuned accordingly..
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FTP 85mm intake
85mm jet maf
85mm summit throttle body
85mm bbk ssi intake
fast fuel rails
30lb ford racing injectors
spohn strut bar
msd ignition coils
msd 8.5mm spark plug wires
edelbrock shorty headers
upgrade cam/ port and polished heads
SMG dyno tuned ( 375 rear wheel hp )
magnaflow cat back
slp y pipe
umi bolt on subframe connectors
umi rear control arms
umi panhard bar
4:10 rear end gears
stage 2 spec clutch
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Re: wierd ideling problem on start up

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yes the dyno tune was my last upgrade so everything should be tuned accordingly..
Don't count on it. The dyno tune is usually just to get the engine to run right at part throttle through WOT and make max HP. Speaking from old OBD I experience, there are several places to "tune" for starting. There is a pulse width (PW) multiplier vs temp, PW vs # of revolutions while cranking, PW vs battery voltage... It sounds like maybe you are either too rich or lean during a warm start and the PCM is trying to sort things out.
What you need to do is have a scanner hooked up and running as you start the car warm and see what all is going on when it is surging. It could be something as simple as a sluggish IAC.
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Old 11-11-2008, 02:57 PM
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Re: wierd ideling problem on start up

ya cuz sometimes it puffs out a little cloud out the exhaust that smells like gas..its a brand new iac sensor..when it was at the dyno he tried sorting out the starting problem but he had no luck..
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FTP 85mm intake
85mm jet maf
85mm summit throttle body
85mm bbk ssi intake
fast fuel rails
30lb ford racing injectors
spohn strut bar
msd ignition coils
msd 8.5mm spark plug wires
edelbrock shorty headers
upgrade cam/ port and polished heads
SMG dyno tuned ( 375 rear wheel hp )
magnaflow cat back
slp y pipe
umi bolt on subframe connectors
umi rear control arms
umi panhard bar
4:10 rear end gears
stage 2 spec clutch
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ya cuz sometimes it puffs out a little cloud out the exhaust that smells like gas..its a brand new iac sensor..when it was at the dyno he tried sorting out the starting problem but he had no luck..
Sounds like you need to shorten the PW in the warmer engine temp ranges.
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Re: wierd ideling problem on start up

which can not be done manually correct?
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FTP 85mm intake
85mm jet maf
85mm summit throttle body
85mm bbk ssi intake
fast fuel rails
30lb ford racing injectors
spohn strut bar
msd ignition coils
msd 8.5mm spark plug wires
edelbrock shorty headers
upgrade cam/ port and polished heads
SMG dyno tuned ( 375 rear wheel hp )
magnaflow cat back
slp y pipe
umi bolt on subframe connectors
umi rear control arms
umi panhard bar
4:10 rear end gears
stage 2 spec clutch
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