Not much changed here in Idaho

[ericn1300]

The presidential vote went 62% McCain 36% Obama. One seat in the U.S. House was lost to a Demo but the Republicans won Sen. Larry Craig's open seat, which will have to be washed thoroughly before seating the new senator, I'm sure.

On the state level, no change. They're going back with the same margins, and the same animosities, and nothing good will get done. Again. Wish we had some Americans here in this state rather then the party loyalists, voting blindly for their party and ignoring the good of the people.

So How did it go in you're state, anything progessive?

[2strokebloke]

Well that's Idaho for you.

Colorado actually voted for Obama, after voting for Bush the past two terms. Surprised me.

Here in Georgia some people are frothing at the mouth - just in tears over electing a "communist" and a "socialist" - but as a friend said, what they're really mad about and won't say is that they're mad he's a "nigger" ~ gotta love the backwards south.

[Toksin]

Originally Posted by 2strokebloke

Well that's Idaho for you.

Colorado actually voted for Obama, after voting for Bush the past two terms. Surprised me.

Here in Georgia some people are frothing at the mouth - just in tears over electing a "communist" and a "socialist" - but as a friend said, what they're really mad about and won't say is that they're mad he's a "nigger" ~ gotta love the backwards south.

I believe they call it "elitist" now.

[VR43000GT]

Originally Posted by 2strokebloke

Well that's Idaho for you.

Colorado actually voted for Obama, after voting for Bush the past two terms. Surprised me.

Here in Georgia some people are frothing at the mouth - just in tears over electing a "communist" and a "socialist" - but as a friend said, what they're really mad about and won't say is that they're mad he's a "nigger" ~ gotta love the backwards south.

Sounds like your friend ate paint chips as a child. That is one thing I am looking forward to seeing for at least the next 4 years...any criticism on Obama will lead to countless people pulling out the, "race card."

And to ericn; you don't think those people voted Republican because they thought that is what was right? And maybe the fact they voted that way is the strongly believe in conservative ideologies. What about those who always vote Democrat? They must just be voting blind. No, they probably have a strong moral stance on the more liberal ideologies. Yes, while I am Republican, I do like some conservative politicians more than others, but will go with a conservative cadidate almost every time because that is where my morals stand. How about worrying about what you can do to make this a better place rather than posting another complaint you have with US voters. It's nothing we haven't heard from you already. In all honesty, you have the most redundant posts on here.

As far as my state goes, it went Republican agian but was very close.

[03cavPA]

Originally Posted by SL3000gt

And to ericn; you don't think those people voted Republican because they thought that is what was right? And maybe the fact they voted that way is the strongly believe in conservative ideologies. What about those who always vote Democrat? They must just be voting blind. No, they probably have a strong moral stance on the more liberal ideologies.

QFT.

The Democrats have always been too liberal for my values. I voted for some Republicans and some Independents, but no Democrats.

[whttrshpunk]

That's the new American philosophy.
If you agree with me, you're an open-minded, worldly, concerned citizen who voted based on what you think it best for everyone,
If you disagree with me, you're a closed-minded, bigoted, irresponsible lemming who gives no thought to what's best for everyone.

Some people vote differently than you, but for the exact same reasons. 90% (created stat) of the time agreeing on the issue is a given, it's agreeing on the solution that causes a bit of trouble.

It's ok to disagree, as long as you can approach the other side of the argument rationally and try to understand (even if you won't agree with) their point of view on the subject. I promise you if you REALLY do this, your mind will get changed on a great many subjects. At least, mine did.

[KustmAce]

Originally Posted by 03cavPA

QFT.

The Democrats have always been too liberal for my values. I voted for some Republicans and some Independents, but no Democrats.

This post made me

[2strokebloke]

Originally Posted by SL3000gt

Sounds like your friend ate paint chips as a child. That is one thing I am looking forward to seeing for at least the next 4 years...any criticism on Obama will lead to countless people pulling out the, "race card."

If I were in Colorado and somebody had said that, I'd have thought he was kidding. This guy by the way is an ex-marine and quite conservative, did not vote for Obama. But thought it was obvious and amusing because he knows some of the people who were boohooing to be quite racist.

It may be hard for you to believe, but yes - there are still a lot of racists out there. Another much older person I know complained that most of his family voted for McCain just because he was white...

Oh, but since you don't know these people at all, just discount them, they're only playing the "race card" and obviously are retarded from eating paint chips as children.

[whttrshpunk]

Which would you guess is larger?
The percentage of white McCain voters who voted just because he's white or the percentage of black Obama voters who voted just because he's black?

[VR43000GT]

No Bloke, that is not the problem I had, the problem I had was generalizing the south that way. Yeah, you are right, there are racist, but generalizing a section of our country to be racist, or anything else for that matter shows a lack of education and class...regardless who said it be it a Marine, conservative, hippy, or liberal. Don't throw words in my mouth saying that I will discard any racism but there will in fact be times it will be pulled out when it is completely irrelavant. I stand by my comment.

As to your question whttrspunk, I would believe it would be blacks voting for Obama. I will try and see if I am right by digging up a link later that may have some backing to it. However, the reason I say this is because on CNBC they said they had more African Americans vote in one state (though I forget which one) this election than any other election before including not just one but ALL combined total of all 50 states. African Americans in US history were one of the least likely race of groups to vote but had quite a turnout this year.

[2strokebloke]

Originally Posted by SL3000gt

No Bloke, that is not the problem I had, the problem I had was generalizing the south that way. Yeah, you are right, there are racist, but generalizing a section of our country to be racist, or anything else for that matter shows a lack of education and class...

No, I think it just shows I've lived a lot of places. I don't think I'm incorrect in making a generalization of that sort. I'm not stereotyping and saying all southerners are racist - just that there are still many racists in the south east. And yes, there were/are people who were upset that a black man beat a white man.

[03cavPA]

Originally Posted by KustmAce

This post made me

Glad to be of service. We do what we can. Unless, of course, you think having values is a bad thing.

[VR43000GT]

Originally Posted by 2strokebloke

but as a friend said, what they're really mad about and won't say is that they're mad he's a "nigger" ~ gotta love the backwards south.

My apologies then, I guess in this quote I missed the part where you didn't generalize the entire south.

Listen, I don't care, it is what it is. I am just saying I can't stand how often the race card is played these days when it has nothing to do with anything in many circumstances.

[ericn1300]

Originally Posted by SL3000gt

And to ericn; you don't think those people voted Republican because they thought that is what was right?

Both of the political machines are good at brain washing, of course the people who voted straight party lines “ thought that is what was right”. Do you think that is right SL3000gt?

[2strokebloke]

Originally Posted by 2strokebloke

I don't think I'm incorrect in making a generalization of that sort.

I guess you must have missed the part where I didn't claim to not be making a generalization.

I do agree the race card is played way too often, but also keep in mind it can swing both ways.