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Wheelspin?
Hey I have a question about wheelspin. What are some ways to reduce it? I put on all new tires today with the best traction I could find.
I was just wondering from your experiences if there was anything else you could do... I get it worst when I boost too high in low gears, and id lik eto try to reduce the amount. Thanks!
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Hahn stage IV S16G-Portfueler w/400cc inj-1:1 Aeromotive FPR-Split sec fuel controller-Walbro 255lph FP-240cc inj-Hahn fuel mapper-JE pistons(8.1:1)-Total Seal rings-Eagle rods-ARP studs-AEM filter-C&R radiator-Hahn 3''downpipe & cat-Thermal Eng. 3''catback-LUK clutch & flywheel-Eibach springs-Eibach offset bushings-KYB GR2 struts-Strut bars-Lower rear tie bar-GReddy boost controller-Apexi T timer-Powerslot rotors-Gloshift gauges |
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Re: Wheelspin?
Stiffer rear springs, stiffter front shocks, wider tires, LSD, upgrade tranny to 3.55 gears. Being fwd there is you can do to eliminate all wheel spin. You can upgrade the car some to help not spin as much but learning how to handle the power in lower gears will help out most. Either get some kind of boost controller that changes with each gear or stay off the gas a litte in lower gears to control the spinning.
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98 Eclipse GS Turbo Megasquirt 2 - Holset HY35 Turbo - Built motor - P&P Head and Intake - 3" Turbo back - FMIC - Greddy RZ BOV - Walbro 255 - Aeromotive AFPR - 650cc Injectors - Fidanza Flywheel - Zoom clutch - 13" Cobra Front Brakes - AEM WB - Devilsown meth injection - 3.55 Final Drive gear ratio 1981 Chevy Scottsdale 1987 Nissan 300zx - Chump Car 2001 BMW 325i - DD |
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Re: Wheelspin?
also letting out some air from the tires. Will kill your mileage though
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FP 18g turbo e3 o2 & mani, 3" exhaust, , 7 bolt, wiseco/eagle, walbro 255hp re-wired, Aeromotive FPR, FIC 1150cc, injen intake, greddy RS, aem wideband, turbo xs mbc, act 2600 clutch sprung 6 puck, BC 272's, dsmlink v2.5, ETS FMIC, Devils Own, JMF SMIM. 18 Inch chrome rims In closet AEM Fuel Rail, SS Lines, 1997 TSI AWD Diamonds Are 4Ever 12.7 @ 107 http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j2...y/DSC00461.jpg |
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Re: Wheelspin?
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Also adding weight to the front works, like a heavy front lip. Are you using rims with low profiles? Those tend to spin more from what I've seen.
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Re: Wheelspin?
Wow great answers =)
Ok, lemme fill all of you in, ill tell you as much as I know. I know,that when my best friend rides with me(weighs about 200) I get wheelspin BAD and much worse power...by myself, it sails like no tomarrow. I have a boost controller,but not an adaptive one like your talking about, but I like the sound of it, no anyone who makes them? I assume you mean it would have a preset boost limit in each gear? I JUST bought brand spankin new kuhmo tires witht he best tread, so ive got tires covered, they work a bit better than the ones I had, as far as eliminating wheelspin. I feel like im leaving something out... anyways, if I think ofit, ill let you all know! Thanks so much!
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Hahn stage IV S16G-Portfueler w/400cc inj-1:1 Aeromotive FPR-Split sec fuel controller-Walbro 255lph FP-240cc inj-Hahn fuel mapper-JE pistons(8.1:1)-Total Seal rings-Eagle rods-ARP studs-AEM filter-C&R radiator-Hahn 3''downpipe & cat-Thermal Eng. 3''catback-LUK clutch & flywheel-Eibach springs-Eibach offset bushings-KYB GR2 struts-Strut bars-Lower rear tie bar-GReddy boost controller-Apexi T timer-Powerslot rotors-Gloshift gauges |
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Re: Wheelspin?
Oh yeah...no im not, ive got stock rims...
and I am planning on getting a front lip here soon, so that should help more than not having one at all, ill try and get the heaviest one I can find I guess lol No of any websites that sell a good variety of front lips for the eclipse?
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Hahn stage IV S16G-Portfueler w/400cc inj-1:1 Aeromotive FPR-Split sec fuel controller-Walbro 255lph FP-240cc inj-Hahn fuel mapper-JE pistons(8.1:1)-Total Seal rings-Eagle rods-ARP studs-AEM filter-C&R radiator-Hahn 3''downpipe & cat-Thermal Eng. 3''catback-LUK clutch & flywheel-Eibach springs-Eibach offset bushings-KYB GR2 struts-Strut bars-Lower rear tie bar-GReddy boost controller-Apexi T timer-Powerslot rotors-Gloshift gauges |
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Re: Wheelspin?
Oh and one more thing, anyone know where I could find the lsd for my 97' eclipse rs? And the gears the other guy was talking about? I searched, couldnt find em...
And whats the differnece between the lsd I have and the one I need? I mean like the technical difference..?
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Hahn stage IV S16G-Portfueler w/400cc inj-1:1 Aeromotive FPR-Split sec fuel controller-Walbro 255lph FP-240cc inj-Hahn fuel mapper-JE pistons(8.1:1)-Total Seal rings-Eagle rods-ARP studs-AEM filter-C&R radiator-Hahn 3''downpipe & cat-Thermal Eng. 3''catback-LUK clutch & flywheel-Eibach springs-Eibach offset bushings-KYB GR2 struts-Strut bars-Lower rear tie bar-GReddy boost controller-Apexi T timer-Powerslot rotors-Gloshift gauges |
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Re: Wheelspin?
simply put
limited slip differentials take power away from the wheels that are spinning so that they get an opportunity to gain traction simple as that but actually quite complex
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FP 18g turbo e3 o2 & mani, 3" exhaust, , 7 bolt, wiseco/eagle, walbro 255hp re-wired, Aeromotive FPR, FIC 1150cc, injen intake, greddy RS, aem wideband, turbo xs mbc, act 2600 clutch sprung 6 puck, BC 272's, dsmlink v2.5, ETS FMIC, Devils Own, JMF SMIM. 18 Inch chrome rims In closet AEM Fuel Rail, SS Lines, 1997 TSI AWD Diamonds Are 4Ever 12.7 @ 107 http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j2...y/DSC00461.jpg |
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Re: Wheelspin?
ok, so how do you go about installing them, simply put?
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Hahn stage IV S16G-Portfueler w/400cc inj-1:1 Aeromotive FPR-Split sec fuel controller-Walbro 255lph FP-240cc inj-Hahn fuel mapper-JE pistons(8.1:1)-Total Seal rings-Eagle rods-ARP studs-AEM filter-C&R radiator-Hahn 3''downpipe & cat-Thermal Eng. 3''catback-LUK clutch & flywheel-Eibach springs-Eibach offset bushings-KYB GR2 struts-Strut bars-Lower rear tie bar-GReddy boost controller-Apexi T timer-Powerslot rotors-Gloshift gauges |
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Re: Wheelspin?
You install them inside the tranny.
a lot fo 2gnts change to neon gears in their tranny. The neon trannies have a slightly higher gearing which will help keep spin down. Search 3.55 gears on 2GNT and you will find plenty of info. Keep in mind that even doing all of these mods are not going to help out much if you cant drive. You are always going to get some spin in a fwd you just have to control it with the gas peddle. A good driver and some of these mods and you should be launching pretty well off the line. Im thinking that the apexi boost controller may be able to adjust per gear. Could be wrong but I think I heard that somewhere. You could always use a switch that will cut the boost controller on/off so you can run say 12psi off the line but flip the switch and run 20psi after second gear or so. It would also allow you to run lower boost daily to help keep spin down if you happen to step on the gas.
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98 Eclipse GS Turbo Megasquirt 2 - Holset HY35 Turbo - Built motor - P&P Head and Intake - 3" Turbo back - FMIC - Greddy RZ BOV - Walbro 255 - Aeromotive AFPR - 650cc Injectors - Fidanza Flywheel - Zoom clutch - 13" Cobra Front Brakes - AEM WB - Devilsown meth injection - 3.55 Final Drive gear ratio 1981 Chevy Scottsdale 1987 Nissan 300zx - Chump Car 2001 BMW 325i - DD |
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Re: Wheelspin?
Niiiice
Well the boost controller I have has a button to push, and has 2 presets, low boost and high boost, around town i keep it on about 15 psi, and I get a little spin if im in the car by myself, and I im capable of 19 so...im guessing with the right mods, I can eventually be able to handle the 19 MAYBE if I can perfect my driving a little more...Like I say, my current driving skills allow me to handle 15 or so without spinning...so I suppose I need to go to the track a little more often, get some more experience... Ok I think im gonna buy a kaaz lsd in few weeks...(2 paychecks) lol...umm if I buy the lsd, is that all I have to buy in order to have it installed at a shop? or does this mod require that I buy more? Basically, an anyone provide a list of the parts ill need to do the swap, given I was taking it to a professional shop? Thanks!
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Hahn stage IV S16G-Portfueler w/400cc inj-1:1 Aeromotive FPR-Split sec fuel controller-Walbro 255lph FP-240cc inj-Hahn fuel mapper-JE pistons(8.1:1)-Total Seal rings-Eagle rods-ARP studs-AEM filter-C&R radiator-Hahn 3''downpipe & cat-Thermal Eng. 3''catback-LUK clutch & flywheel-Eibach springs-Eibach offset bushings-KYB GR2 struts-Strut bars-Lower rear tie bar-GReddy boost controller-Apexi T timer-Powerslot rotors-Gloshift gauges Last edited by boostjunkie333; 09-24-2008 at 04:27 AM. |
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Re: Wheelspin?
It should just drop right in. You should be able to do it yourself if you want to take out the tranny and open in up.
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98 Eclipse GS Turbo Megasquirt 2 - Holset HY35 Turbo - Built motor - P&P Head and Intake - 3" Turbo back - FMIC - Greddy RZ BOV - Walbro 255 - Aeromotive AFPR - 650cc Injectors - Fidanza Flywheel - Zoom clutch - 13" Cobra Front Brakes - AEM WB - Devilsown meth injection - 3.55 Final Drive gear ratio 1981 Chevy Scottsdale 1987 Nissan 300zx - Chump Car 2001 BMW 325i - DD |
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Re: Wheelspin?
Ok so it just replaces, thats all...good to know... thanks a lot guys, when I get around to buying one, ill let you all know how it works out...
Thanks!
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Hahn stage IV S16G-Portfueler w/400cc inj-1:1 Aeromotive FPR-Split sec fuel controller-Walbro 255lph FP-240cc inj-Hahn fuel mapper-JE pistons(8.1:1)-Total Seal rings-Eagle rods-ARP studs-AEM filter-C&R radiator-Hahn 3''downpipe & cat-Thermal Eng. 3''catback-LUK clutch & flywheel-Eibach springs-Eibach offset bushings-KYB GR2 struts-Strut bars-Lower rear tie bar-GReddy boost controller-Apexi T timer-Powerslot rotors-Gloshift gauges |
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Re: Wheelspin?
when yuo say let the air out...how much? how much should i have in em i mean...
and just on the front ones?
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Hahn stage IV S16G-Portfueler w/400cc inj-1:1 Aeromotive FPR-Split sec fuel controller-Walbro 255lph FP-240cc inj-Hahn fuel mapper-JE pistons(8.1:1)-Total Seal rings-Eagle rods-ARP studs-AEM filter-C&R radiator-Hahn 3''downpipe & cat-Thermal Eng. 3''catback-LUK clutch & flywheel-Eibach springs-Eibach offset bushings-KYB GR2 struts-Strut bars-Lower rear tie bar-GReddy boost controller-Apexi T timer-Powerslot rotors-Gloshift gauges |
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Re: Wheelspin?
yes just the front ones. And it really depends the more air you let out to a point the better traction you get but your economy suffers.
My best advice would be to incrementally decrease the air a couple psi at a time and go from there see what works best. If you can eliminate the spin with only letting out a few psi thats great then you're done. If not well at some point you will have to say ok thats enough.
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FP 18g turbo e3 o2 & mani, 3" exhaust, , 7 bolt, wiseco/eagle, walbro 255hp re-wired, Aeromotive FPR, FIC 1150cc, injen intake, greddy RS, aem wideband, turbo xs mbc, act 2600 clutch sprung 6 puck, BC 272's, dsmlink v2.5, ETS FMIC, Devils Own, JMF SMIM. 18 Inch chrome rims In closet AEM Fuel Rail, SS Lines, 1997 TSI AWD Diamonds Are 4Ever 12.7 @ 107 http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j2...y/DSC00461.jpg |
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