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Palin chosen as McCain's VP

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To give equal opportunity to the other major party in US politics, here's the chance to discuss McCain's choice of a relative newcomer to "the scene". Will she balance out the ticket and "steal" votes from Obama from those who are disheartened with Obama and his choice in this years' presidential election?
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It really doesn't make any difference whether she is a newcomer or not but I am quite sure the Democrats will be on the attack. She is a female so go figure. The second female VP running mate in U.S. history. Probably excellent political strategy or it could backfire. Even without her at least 27% of Hillary's supporters were going to vote Republican anyways. See link below. So she may just be icing on the cake.

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Re: Palin chosen as McCain's VP

Wow! Not a bad looker for a "hockey mom". 44 y.o., staunch conservative, former beauty queen and lifetime membership in the NRA. She sure beats that skag Geraldine Ferraro that ran on the Mondale ticket back in the 80s at least in looks.

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Re: Palin chosen as McCain's VP

Kind of ironic that for someone who put so much effort into belittling Obama for "inexperience" he picks someone for his VP slot that is far less experienced than Obama.

Very cool woman, but a shameful, and ineffective attempt to snap up Hillary supporters...
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Re: Palin chosen as McCain's VP

I think it is going to backfire on him to an extent. The very right wing conservative males that would never vote for a woman or a black man had their votes set on McCain... NOW what are they going to do??
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I think it is going to backfire on him to an extent. The very right wing conservative males that would never vote for a woman or a black man had their votes set on McCain... NOW what are they going to do??
Nah!

Even if what you are saying is taken as true the far right wingers definitely won't vote for the Democratic Party and Obama since he is black. As far as voting for females obviously they have voted in the past for female Republicans that ran for Congress and Governor. This gal, Palin is so far on or to the right that those guys are probably drooling over her. This lady goes hunting, pro gun and even eats Moose stew. What are they going to do?.....probably vote for the Republican Party, regardless of who is on the ticket.

The area where it might backfire, which is a big if, is in the Clinton supporters primarily females that are undecided or have considered defecting from the Democratic Party due to what happened to Hillary. Palin is big time pro life (anti-abortion) and is against same sex marriages. That alone does not settle well with Democrats/Liberals.



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Re: Palin chosen as McCain's VP

I think the pick of a woman was an attempt to win over Hillary's supporters whom McCain has been openly wooing. The problem is that Palin is so far opposite of Hillary that this might be seen as pandering to voters.

There really are no other qualifications to justify the choice.
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Re: Palin chosen as McCain's VP

It's an interesting pick no matter how you look at it. She's young, inexperienced, outside of Washington politics, and is a hard line conservative. Her extreme pro-life stance may heal appease true conservatives who are still suspicious of McCain. Moreover, she is female, which helps to tap into the current obsession with change, which will now happen whether Obama or McCain is elected.

On the negative side, she is extremely inexperienced, which begs the question...what happens if McCain doesn't make it through all 4 years? A first term governor with absolutely no national or international political experience, commanding one of the most powerful countries in the world? She is also currently under investigation for ethics violations, something Republicans need right now like a hole in the head.

Gonna be interesting to see what happens, but McCain did well to at least pick someone outside of the status quo.
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Re: Palin chosen as McCain's VP

The GOP got my wife's email address somehow and send her stuff all the time. Here's the latest from John McCain:


My Friends,
I am honored to announce that I have chosen Governor Sarah Palin of Alaska as my choice for the Republican nominee for Vice President. As a father with three daughters, I can't express how proud I am to choose the first female Republican Vice-Presidential nominee.
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Sarah Palin is a trailblazer and a reformer. As the first female governor of Alaska, she challenged a corrupt system and has been a tireless advocate for reform - passing a landmark bill on ethics reform. She has taken on the old politics in Alaska and reformed the state's energy industry. She rejects wasteful pork barrel spending. She's fearless - exactly the type of leader I want at my side and the type of leadership we will bring to Washington.
My friends, together Sarah Palin and I make the strongest presidential ticket and I know that she joins me in asking for your support as we head into our Convention week in Minnesota. We're shaking things up in this campaign - and Governor Palin and I are ready to bring real reform to Washington.
The polls indicate this will be a tight race as we head into the fall campaign against Senators Obama and Biden. I expect the polls to remain close all the way up to Election Day and that is why any help you can give today will go a long way to make history on November 4th.
You may already know that I have decided to accept federal matching funds for the final months of this campaign- keeping a campaign promise I made. But that means that August 31st marks the last day I can accept your primary contribution. Will you make an immediate donation of whatever you can give- whether it's $50 or $500 to ensure Governor Palin and I win in November?
You can be assured that as President and Vice President, Governor Palin and I will always put country before all else. We are ready to lead and I ask that you join our campaign today. Your support is deeply appreciated.
Sincerely,

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Re: Palin chosen as McCain's VP

She is in hot water for ethics violations in AK, and McCain had only met her once, the day before he nominated her.

Not to mention, McCain would be the oldest man ever in the white house, a vp's job is to take the presidents spot if he cant perform his duties. I do NOT trust a woman with 2 years governor experience in a state with 13 people and some caribou to run this country in this time. This pick is a desperate, and poorly thought out move by McCain to try and scratch at Hillary supporters.

Its very disheartening really, he is not putting the interests of the country first. He's pandering to laft-wing, liberal Hillary supporters with a pro-life, pro-gun, hardline conservative.
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He's pandering to left-wing, liberal Hillary supporters with a pro-life, pro-gun, hardline conservative.


How can you classify that as political pandering? "To the left-wing liberal Hillary supporters with a pro-life, pro-gun, hardline conservative". That doesn't make sense to me.



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How can you classify that as political pandering? "To the left-wing liberal Hillary supporters with a pro-life, pro-gun, hardline conservative". That doesn't make sense to me.
Don't fret, it doesn't to make sense to anyone.

John McCain calls Obama out on being too young inexperienced, so he nominates someone younger and more inexperienced than him.

Her nomination is merely a desperate attempt to gather Hillary supporters. He seems to think 18 million women are shallow enough to substitute one woman for another.

Are YOU honestly willing to put the future of our country in the hands of someone who has governed a state for 2 years, with a population less than 700,000? A woman who has spent the majority of her political career as a mayor of a town with a population of 8,500? A so-called "ethical" woman who is dead center of a ethics contraversy? A woman who John McCain had never even met until the day before her nomination?
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Are YOU honestly willing to put the future of our country in the hands of someone who has governed a state for 2 years, with a population less than 700,000? A woman who has spent the majority of her political career as a mayor of a town with a population of 8,500? A so-called "ethical" woman who is dead center of a ethics contraversy? A woman who John McCain had never even met until the day before her nomination?
Lets see, didn't we elect a president back in 1992 whose only experience was being the governor of Arkansas? As for this "ethics contraversy" there is none. She had a kid with down syndrom big fucking deal.
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Lets see, didn't we elect a president back in 1992 whose only experience was being the governor of Arkansas?
What happened to "Obama being too young and inexperienced", ya know, the same crap McCain has been spouting for weeks? Your right, we did elect a young governor in 92. And he did a helluva job. Thank you for making my argument for me

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As for this "ethics contraversy" there is none. She had a kid with down syndrom big fucking deal.


WTF would make you think I was talking about her kids??

Do some research into your new VP choice....
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What happened to "Obama being too young and inexperienced", ya know, the same crap McCain has been spouting for weeks?
Obama gets elected. Obama becomes president.
McCain gets elected. McCain becomes president.

When you see Palin in there as being elected president let me know.

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Your right, we did elect a young governor in 92. And he did a helluva job. Thank you for making my argument for me
Perjury? Selling national secrets to China? Waco? Letting Bin Ladin go?

Yup helluva job.

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WTF would make you think I was talking about her kids??

Do some research into your new VP choice....
All I've been hearing about is her choice to have a kid with down syndrom and her "radical" anti-abortion stance because of it.
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