Biden chosen as Obama's VP

['97ventureowner]

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/24/us...hp&oref=slogin
Discuss.
Good choice?
Do you think this will "even out" the ticket, and if not who would've been a better choice?

[Damien]

A white person. So whatever redneck dispelased with the fact...yeah, we'll have a first in a long time.

I won't say the words because then every single 2, 3, and 4 letter word association will show up monitoring this site.

[wafrederick]

I still will not trust Obama and he is out there to change the 2nd admendment and here it is:

1: Ban the use of firearms for home defense

2: Pass federal laws eliminating your right to carry

3: Ban the manufacture,sale and posseession of hand guns

4: Close down 90% of the gun shops in America

5: Ban rifle ammunition commonly used for hunting and sport shooting

6: Increase federal taxes on guns and amunition by 500 percent

7: Restore voting rights for five million criminals including those who have been convicted of using a gun to commit a violent crime

8: Expand the Clinton semi auto ban to include millions more firearms

9: Manidate a government-issued license to purchase a firearm

10: Appoint judges to the US Supreme Court and Federal Judiciary who share his views on the second admendment

This all true and found this in a magazine,First Freedom which I get since I am a member of the NRA

[KustmAce]

Originally Posted by wafrederick

I still will not trust Obama and he is out there to change the 2nd admendment and here it is:

1: Ban the use of firearms for home defense

2: Pass federal laws eliminating your right to carry

3: Ban the manufacture,sale and posseession of hand guns

4: Close down 90% of the gun shops in America

5: Ban rifle ammunition commonly used for hunting and sport shooting

6: Increase federal taxes on guns and amunition by 500 percent

7: Restore voting rights for five million criminals including those who have been convicted of using a gun to commit a violent crime

8: Expand the Clinton semi auto ban to include millions more firearms

9: Manidate a government-issued license to purchase a firearm

10: Appoint judges to the US Supreme Court and Federal Judiciary who share his views on the second admendment

This all true and found this in a magazine,First Freedom which I get since I am a member of the NRA

Ya I hear ya man. I still dont trust Obama either, I saw in a newspaper that I get when I go shopping at the supermarket, and its true cuz its in a newspaper, that he is really a Muslim alien from Mars that hates white people, and he's having an affair with Oprah.

NOT someone I want running this country.

But as far as the veep choice goes, thats who I was kind of pullin for the whole time.

Oh btw, wafrederick, can you cite any sources? Or are you just licking up propaganda?

[BNaylor]

Biden has a tendency to put his foot in his mouth. As usual the Republicans are on the attack.

How is this going to unite the Democratic Party? The Clinton supporters won't be happy especially the majority of the Hispanics since many do not support Obama but they did support Hillary.

The Republican election camp has attacked Barack Obama's choice of Joe Biden as running mate in a series of advertisements aired only three hours after the news was announced.

The ads show clips of interviews given by Biden in which he had claimed Obama is "not ready" to be president said the Republican contender John McCain would be a better choice for the country.

A clip from a debate in 2007 shows Biden standing next to Obama as George Stephanopoulos, of ABC News, asks whether he still stands by his views.

Biden is on record as saying: "I think he [Obama] can be ready but, right now, I don't believe he is. The presidency is not something that lends itself to on the job training."

The McCain ad uses footage from another TV appearance in which Biden said: "I would be honoured to run with or against John McCain, because I think the country would be better off."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008...s2008.joebiden

[easymuny]

wafrederick,

You make a good point, but that is not the half of it. Obama wants to raise taxes just like all loony democrats.

I'm not talking about rich people either. When Bush went in I started bringing home more of my paycheck. Obama, just like Clinton wants to increase federal tax witholdings from your pay check.

If they didn't they would make the "Bush Tax Cuts" permanent.

As always the democrats want to take from the working people and give to the illegal immigrants and dictators of foreign countries who hate us.

They will never get enough taxes, never!

Now I realize there are some crooked Republicans too, but at least they don't want to tax the working man to death.

I need every penny I can get just to exist and support my family.

Another thing...

You can not reason or trust dictators.

Why? Because they are all liars. They will say one thing to you and do the opposite.

I'm stopping here. I could go on all day long about our crooked and uncaring government.

If they cared about the working man(Poor). They would be drilling for oil and driving the price of oil down.

Just talking about drilling for oil has brought the price of oil down.

It will not drop much longer because the democrats are saying that they won't drill.

Go McCain, (and Romney)

[ericn1300]

Originally Posted by easymuny

Obama wants to raise taxes just like all loony democrats.
I'm not talking about rich people either.

That's just wrong. http://www.barackobama.com/2008/08/1...a_tax_plan.php

[BNaylor]

He will only kill our military to save money or fudge on the so called balanced budget just like 8 years of Bill Clinton did. I would not vote for that moron "Obama" no matter what you put up.

[wafrederick]

I found the info from the magazine,First Freedom from the NRA which I am member of.The NRA does not want him in office either.Obama has a long record for voting yes on proposed gun control laws and was supportive on the gun ban in Washington DC which was struck down.In his radio ads,he says he is going to cut taxes which I do not believe.He is also a target for being assisinated.

[KustmAce]

Originally Posted by wafrederick

I found the info from the magazine,First Freedom from the NRA which I am member of.The NRA does not want him in office either.Obama has a long record for voting yes on proposed gun control laws and was supportive on the gun ban in Washington DC which was struck down.In his radio ads,he says he is going to cut taxes which I do not believe.He is also a target for being assisinated.

So, you base your "facts" on a magazine produced by one of the most conservative organizations in America. Sounds like you've thought this through.

Excuse me while I go and make my decision based on articles out of The Onion.

[easymuny]

ericn1300,

I forgot to mention that you can't reason or trust democrats either.

The democratic party has turned communist.

They believe in taking from those who worked for their wealth (rich and poor) and giving it to those who will not work.

Redistribution of Wealth.

[Damien]

He's been recorded and it's been played what's consider either left or middle news stations. Still, arguing that a place may lack some credibility is not an arguement why someone should be president.

This isn't a court a law disproving resonable doubt.

It's people like you that give party members such a bad reputation o being totally ignorant and blatantly stupid because they cannot dish out any useful information and only know how to play defense.

Doesn't matter, in the end debates are pointless between people because the only minds that'll switch are intelligent ones that can decided for themselves watching the presidential dedbates and wedding out the BS while these can continue on forever with a much or ignorant fools that believe some "great change" will happen, well, at least a positive one.

[wafrederick]

The info is true and the NRA knows his plans.He believes gun bans work and he is wrong,do not work.

[HotZ28]

It's quite simple, vote for Osama Obama and get a free mark of the beast!

[BNaylor]

Originally Posted by wafrederick

The info is true and the NRA knows his plans.He believes gun bans work and he is wrong,do not work.

Well, while probably true Obama flip flopped on the latest US Supreme Court ruling concerning the D.C. handgun ban. He actually supported the decision in the end but obviously he is looking for moderate voters and some Republicans that may defect which is a big if. The bottom line is he wants to win.

Obviously the battle lines have been drawn and at this point in time most people have already made up their minds on who they are going to vote for including which political party regardless of which running mate is selected or the merits of the candidate. Last time I checked people are entitled to their beliefs and who to vote for this November. Many support the respective political party regardless of who the candidate is.

Here wafrederick if it makes you feel any better feel free to use this in your signature.