best turbo?

[esp]

iwas wondering what do you guys think is the best turbo for a d16y8 with stock internals is it the t03/04? just wondering what was your oppinion i need to know buying a turbo within the next week or so.

[Neutrino]

T3/t4 turbo is an awesome setup. The only thing i would consider as an alternative is one of the Gt series turbos from garrett.

[esp]

Originally posted by Neutrino
T3/t4 turbo is an awesome setup. The only thing i would consider as an alternative is one of the Gt series turbos from garrett.

yeah i thought about the T28 kit that edelbrock is coming out with for my car but i emailed them and they are going to be asking $3500 when it comes out in Spring sometime.

[civicgsr_T4_60-1]

yea, 3500 is expensive, but not for that kit. You get everything, that's a pretty good price. You'd spend almost that much on the greddy kit, then you have to get the intercooler, bov, fuel management. With the jg kit you get the fuel management, intake mani, alot of good stuff. I would use a precision turbo if your making a custom turbo setup though.

[SleeperCivic]

Originally posted by civicgsr_T4_60-1
yea, 3500 is expensive, but not for that kit. You get everything, that's a pretty good price. You'd spend almost that much on the greddy kit, then you have to get the intercooler, bov, fuel management.

You're out of your damn mind. Greddy kits go for $1496 from Alamo Autosports (open advertising). You can get if for less if you have a buddy that can get them that cheap. I spend approx $3200 and had the 15G kit, Type 31 FMIC, BOV, Boost controller, and exhaust.

[civicgsr_T4_60-1]

Originally posted by SleeperCivic
You're out of your damn mind. Greddy kits go for $1496 from Alamo Autosports (open advertising). You can get if for less if you have a buddy that can get them that cheap. I spend approx $3200 and had the 15G kit, Type 31 FMIC, BOV, Boost controller, and exhaust.

haha, do you know what you get with that kit. Besides the ball bearing turbo and all those components, you get a complete fuel management and a new intake manifold. See if greddy will give you all that for the same price. Don't get me wrong, i got a new greddy kit, bov, tt, intercooler kit, for less than anyone on this board can find. But i know what it would come out to also, if you went thru greddy. I'm not out of my mind, the price is reasonable for what you get. I'm sure you'll find it much cheaper too. Also, look how much you spent, and you didn't get anything for fuel management but the crappy blue box. now if you plan on running more than 7psi, time for some 310's, afc, fmu, or hondata. So see, now your up above the price for the edelbrock kit. Your got ripped on your price for the greddy anyway.

[SleeperCivic]

Well, I bought my Greddy kit 2 years ago and at that time, it was the cheapest on the market. As for the blue box, you're wrong about the 7psi deal. I've ran up to 10psi on the track with the blue box and no problems. I don't know where people get they're info, but it's not correct. Most people are just too scared to run any more boost than that.]

What I'm talking about is that you said you'd have to spend almost $3500 on the Greddy kit, then buy a BOV and such. I bought ALL of that for less than $3500. Also, I can't even use the full amount of boost the 15G puts out as it is, much less handle the boost of a larger turbo.

[civicgsr_T4_60-1]

holy shit, did you just say you can't even use the full amount of boost the 15g puts out. Oh man, your killing me, the 15g is so small, it dies out fast man. You really need to step up to a t3/t4 or maybe a t3 60-1. Anyway, i wasn't trying to argue with you, just saying that the edelbrock kit is a reasonable price for what you kit. Also, even greddy doesn't recommend you taking boost up past it's stock setting which i believe is 5.5 or 6psi.

[SleeperCivic]

Originally posted by civicgsr_T4_60-1
Also, even greddy doesn't recommend you taking boost up past it's stock setting which i believe is 5.5 or 6psi.

What?? I've never heard that before. The Greddy 15G will put out 14psi, after that it starts blowing hot air. You might be right about Greddy's recommendation, but you've been misinformed about it's boost levels. And to boot, it spools fast as hell.

[civicgsr_T4_60-1]

No i wasn't misinformed about the greddy boost. I just didn't explain myself well enough. On the blue box with stock everything they don't recommend going past 6psi. 14psi should give you a nice 250whp. I do know that it spools fast and for that reason it dies of in the top end. I gaurentee you won't hold 14psi in the top end. I did have this kit before on my sohc so i do know what i'm talking about.

[SleeperCivic]

Originally posted by civicgsr_T4_60-1
No i wasn't misinformed about the greddy boost. I just didn't explain myself well enough.

Okay, cool.

[edman24]

are you seriously telling this guy to put a t3/t4 hybrid on a d16 with stock internals? are you guys nuts. your engine would have so much turbo lag plus why such a big turbo if you cant even run high boost levels? get a turbo matched to your car. dont go buying big turbos cause they look cool. if you match the boost curve of the turbo to the power of the car and how much boost it can handle you will be much better off. for a d16 i wouldnt go any bigger then a t3.

[civicgsr_T4_60-1]

hahaha. Yea, you can put a t3/t4 on a d16. Alot of people use the revhard stage 2 kit, which is a t3/t4. I'm sorry buddy, but you've been misinformed. The stock D16 can do just fine with a T3/T4, Inline did a guys car that way and it was running in the 12's. Tunning is the key.

[Neutrino]

Originally posted by edman24
are you seriously telling this guy to put a t3/t4 hybrid on a d16 with stock internals? are you guys nuts. your engine would have so much turbo lag plus why such a big turbo if you cant even run high boost levels? get a turbo matched to your car. dont go buying big turbos cause they look cool. if you match the boost curve of the turbo to the power of the car and how much boost it can handle you will be much better off. for a d16 i wouldnt go any bigger then a t3.

actually you would be surprised how fast those t3/t4's can spool. Also while on stock internals he can have it set up for ~7 psi. At that boots you are right he would be better off with a t28 lets say but a t3/t4 would allow for more upgrades later on just because its such a versatile turbo.


i also found this quote on another thread and i agree with him.

Originally posted by edman24


a t3/t4, t4 and all larger turbos could be considered top end but there are advantages. if your power comes in later, your car will already be moving and therefore have much less tirespin. since hondas are so light this is good because you dont want to just spin your tires and not go anywhere. also gas mileage. if you spend more time at low rpms and your turbo is not spooled you will be using less gas then in a supercharged engine because the supercharger is producing more boost at lower rpm.

[edman24]

yah you were saying that he runs 12's with a d16 but im sure hes running more then 10psi. thise guys couldnt run over 10 psi without blowing something up first so why sacrifice all that extra lag when you can get a t25 turbo that will work much better for his application? after all he did say he was using stock internals