voyager wont start

[shmarkham]

i have a 93 voyager 3.0! ijust changed the water inlet pipe and pump! now it wont start! all timint marks are in correct place! distributor pointing between 1-2! spark at plugs! even if i put gas into the intake it wont start! any ideas?

[Polygon]

The the engine cranking over?

[shmarkham]

yeah its cranking sparking can smell fuel! wondering if maby the cams moved and there just out of time even though the marks are rite! might be sparking on exauhst stroke instead of fuel! any thoughts?

[tempfixit]

Have you done the key dance for checking codes? Key on/off, on/off, on within 5 seconds without starting engine and count the flashes of check engine light. Example 1 flash pause 2 flashes= code 12

Post any codes if present.

Have you done a compression test on all clyinders?

[shmarkham]

yeah i've check codes no codes no check engine light! it was running fine before i tore it open to stop it from leaking all over the place! had to pull intake to change pipe!then had to tare the whole side of the engine open and take the timing belt off the get the pump out now it wont start!all wires and vacume hoses hooked up as well!

[RIP]

Judging by a diagram of the distributor cap the contact inside the cap where the rotor contacts the contact for the #1 plug wire is actually between the #2 and #6 posts. Are you taking that into consideration when you check to see where the rotor is aligned? If it's aligned between the #1 and #2 posts, then the rotor is actually aligned with the #2 contact, meaning you're aligned one plug off. That is one screwy cap! If this is your problem, you are far from the first to make that mistake.

Go here, scroll to figure 2, click it to blow up the drawing: http://www.autozone.com/addVehicleId...00c1528003c2d8

[tempfixit]

Originally Posted by shmarkham

yeah i've check codes no codes no check engine light! it was running fine before i tore it open to stop it from leaking all over the place! had to pull intake to change pipe!then had to tare the whole side of the engine open and take the timing belt off the get the pump out now it wont start!all wires and vacume hoses hooked up as well!

Did you mark the position of the old timing belt when you removed it? Does it backfire when you are cranking it? Look at the Online service manuals for the timing belt removal and replacement procedure and recheck your timing belt timing marks. Acutally if you did not install a new timing belt I would consider it.

[shmarkham]

ok well i got it running! timing issues! but now it starts hard! will only start if i hold gas to floor! then runs a little ruff! if i disconect egr vaccum it runns better but will not start! any ideas?

[RIP]

Some progress is better than no progress. Even if the belt is in the right spot, you usually have to rotate the distributor to get it right on the specified setting. Did you try that?

[shmarkham]

yeah i it to the marks! got it running was realy ruff couldn't get enough movement out of cap so i went back in and jumped the belt a tooth or two! it runns better now! but i need to hold pedle to floor to get it to start! after that it runns nice untill you rev it and let off then the ideal dropps realy low and sometimes stalls! wile its running it's ok but if i disconect the egr vaccum line from intake it runns a lot better! not sure if timing is still out or egr bad or throttle position senser crapped on me! any thoughts?

[jpb53]

Did you disconnect the coolant temp sensor when you adjusted the ignition timing?

[shmarkham]

no i didn't to set the timing! why?

[jpb53]

To set ignition timing the coolant sensor has to be unplugged then set timing.