-
Grand Future Air Dried Fresh Beef Dog Food
Air Dried Dog Food | Fresh Beef

Carnivore Diet for Dogs

Go Back   Automotive Forums Car Chat > Chevrolet > Avalanche | C&K | Silverado | Suburban | Tahoe > Silverado
Register FAQ Community
Reply Show Printable Version Show Printable Version | Subscription Subscribe to this Thread
 
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 07-20-2008, 09:48 AM
Gbuzz71 Gbuzz71 is offline
AF Newbie
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 41
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Cool A new noise....bearing?

Ok, I was coming home from a day trip out of town. About a 100 mile trip, it was very hot and humid outside. I was 5 miles from home and it started. I can only describe it as it sounded like the front driver side wheel would periodically stop or slow down enough for it to chirp like I slammed the brakes. I was driving about 45 mph in a straight line.

No service lights on dash came on. I just replaced the front rotors and pads and the drivers side caliper. So I'm thinking it's some kind of bearing. I'm not that mechanically incline, but I can replace the rotor and pads. How difficult is a bearing replacement( if that's the problem)???

It's a Z71 Silverado 2003 with 36K on it.

I'd appreciate any thoughts.

Last edited by Gbuzz71; 07-20-2008 at 10:12 AM. Reason: delete
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 07-20-2008, 10:13 AM
MT-2500's Avatar
MT-2500 MT-2500 is offline
AF - Advisor
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 16,690
Thanks: 5
Thanked 121 Times in 120 Posts
Re: A new noise....bearing?

Foot on or off brakes?
Can you feel the brake or wheel pull when it does it.

Recheck pads and caliper sliders.
Feel for wheel looseness and feel and listen for noise in the wheel
Is wheel running hot?
Bearing is not hard to replace when rotor and pads off.
__________________
Remember proper testing gives us the answer to many problems.
MT
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 07-20-2008, 10:19 AM
Gbuzz71 Gbuzz71 is offline
AF Newbie
Thread starter
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 41
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: A new noise....bearing?

Quote:
Originally Posted by MT-2500
Foot on or off brakes?
Can you feel the brake or wheel pull when it does it.

Recheck pads and caliper sliders.
Feel for wheel looseness and feel and listen for noise in the wheel
Is wheel running hot?
Bearing is not hard to replace when rotor and pads off.
My foot was off the brakes when the noise was happening. Where would I check the wheel for running hot? Is the caliper slider the bolt that goes through the caliper?
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 07-20-2008, 02:14 PM
silicon212's Avatar
silicon212 silicon212 is offline
Confoundingly Lucid
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 3,901
Thanks: 5
Thanked 31 Times in 31 Posts
Send a message via ICQ to silicon212
Re: A new noise....bearing?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gbuzz71
My foot was off the brakes when the noise was happening. Where would I check the wheel for running hot? Is the caliper slider the bolt that goes through the caliper?
If the wheel is running hot, you will know by touching it after a long drive. It will be hot! This is an indication of a dragging pad.

Does the vehicle pull to one side or the other when it makes the noise?
__________________
1988 9C1 - Modified LM1 @ 275HP/350TQ - TH700R4 - 3.08 8.5" Disc Rear - see it at http://www.silicon212.org/9c1!
2005 Crown Vic P71 - former AZ DPS - 4.6 liters of pure creamy slothness!
1967 El Camino L79/M20 old school asphalt raper

Remember - a government that is strong enough to give you everything you need, is also strong enough to take everything you have.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 07-20-2008, 08:37 PM
ukrkoz's Avatar
ukrkoz ukrkoz is offline
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 588
Thanks: 2
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Re: A new noise....bearing?

1. it is common sense to re-check on the last repair done, just in case.
2. it is hard to judge from the description, but i do not think it's a hub bearing. is it a 4x4? if yes, then it does not have front spindle bearing, but has a hub bearing, and it needs to be replaced as assembly. it is a LARGE bearing. vertical play in the wheel points towards it going bad, and silvies do this anywhere around 60K miles to start with. as did mine.
i am leaning more towards either bent or loose splash shield or something else "left behind" after last job done.

i re-read your post. binding caliper? that will give periodically stop or slow down enough for it to chirp like I slammed the brakes symptoms. definitely recheck the job.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 07-21-2008, 09:56 AM
Gbuzz71 Gbuzz71 is offline
AF Newbie
Thread starter
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 41
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: A new noise....bearing?

Quote:
Originally Posted by ukrkoz
1. it is common sense to re-check on the last repair done, just in case.
2. it is hard to judge from the description, but i do not think it's a hub bearing. is it a 4x4? if yes, then it does not have front spindle bearing, but has a hub bearing, and it needs to be replaced as assembly. it is a LARGE bearing. vertical play in the wheel points towards it going bad, and silvies do this anywhere around 60K miles to start with. as did mine.
i am leaning more towards either bent or loose splash shield or something else "left behind" after last job done.

i re-read your post. binding caliper? that will give periodically stop or slow down enough for it to chirp like I slammed the brakes symptoms. definitely recheck the job.
I replaced the pads and rotors about 6 weeks ago. How would I tell if the caliper is binding? Is there a quick fix? And yes it is a 4x4. Thanks for your reply.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 07-21-2008, 02:24 PM
silicon212's Avatar
silicon212 silicon212 is offline
Confoundingly Lucid
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 3,901
Thanks: 5
Thanked 31 Times in 31 Posts
Send a message via ICQ to silicon212
Re: A new noise....bearing?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gbuzz71
I replaced the pads and rotors about 6 weeks ago. How would I tell if the caliper is binding? Is there a quick fix? And yes it is a 4x4. Thanks for your reply.
DOES IT PULL TO ONE SIDE?
__________________
1988 9C1 - Modified LM1 @ 275HP/350TQ - TH700R4 - 3.08 8.5" Disc Rear - see it at http://www.silicon212.org/9c1!
2005 Crown Vic P71 - former AZ DPS - 4.6 liters of pure creamy slothness!
1967 El Camino L79/M20 old school asphalt raper

Remember - a government that is strong enough to give you everything you need, is also strong enough to take everything you have.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 07-21-2008, 07:13 PM
Gbuzz71 Gbuzz71 is offline
AF Newbie
Thread starter
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 41
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Wink Re: A new noise....bearing?

Quote:
Originally Posted by silicon212
DOES IT PULL TO ONE SIDE?
I took my hand off the wheel while it chirped and it didn't pull to one side. The truck kind of has a disturbance that only the driver could feel. It's real subtle like a little shimmy. However....when I depress the brakes firmly the truck does and always has pulled to the left. Before the brake job and after. I've been driving on these new brakes for 6 weeks without a hitch...now all of sudden it's a stuck caliper???? Could this be?

P.S. I love the big red letters.... sorry I didn't respond in a timely manner. Your help is appreciated.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 07-21-2008, 10:29 PM
silicon212's Avatar
silicon212 silicon212 is offline
Confoundingly Lucid
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 3,901
Thanks: 5
Thanked 31 Times in 31 Posts
Send a message via ICQ to silicon212
Re: A new noise....bearing?

Sorry, I had asked the question earlier and felt like I wasn't getting anywhere! No offense intended.

If it has a pull, then there might be a problem with a caliper or even a warped rotor. When you did the brakes, did you simply scuff the rotors, or did you have them surfaced or replaced? It actually sounds like a warped rotor to me.
__________________
1988 9C1 - Modified LM1 @ 275HP/350TQ - TH700R4 - 3.08 8.5" Disc Rear - see it at http://www.silicon212.org/9c1!
2005 Crown Vic P71 - former AZ DPS - 4.6 liters of pure creamy slothness!
1967 El Camino L79/M20 old school asphalt raper

Remember - a government that is strong enough to give you everything you need, is also strong enough to take everything you have.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 07-21-2008, 10:48 PM
j cAT j cAT is offline
AF Fanatic
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 10,898
Thanks: 8
Thanked 432 Times in 431 Posts
Re: A new noise....bearing?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gbuzz71
I replaced the pads and rotors about 6 weeks ago. How would I tell if the caliper is binding? Is there a quick fix? And yes it is a 4x4. Thanks for your reply.

if you needed rotors and brake pads on the front after 36,ooomi either your vehicle does not really have this mileage or you have bad calipers...when the brakes where replaced did the pads look the same with the same wear .......if not the pads that where badly worn that side needs troubleshooting so as to determine the cause...my 2000 sil 4x4 went 92,ooomi on pads same rotors today 115,ooomi.....somethings wrong with brakes...you still may have bearing problem but because the ABS is not acting up probably not......


the use of after market cheap pads are not recommended....oem type last longer and do not damage the rotors with severe grooving......
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 07-22-2008, 05:58 AM
Gbuzz71 Gbuzz71 is offline
AF Newbie
Thread starter
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 41
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: A new noise....bearing?

Quote:
Originally Posted by silicon212
Sorry, I had asked the question earlier and felt like I wasn't getting anywhere! No offense intended.

If it has a pull, then there might be a problem with a caliper or even a warped rotor. When you did the brakes, did you simply scuff the rotors, or did you have them surfaced or replaced? It actually sounds like a warped rotor to me.
I put brand new rotors on the front. The original rotors were all chewed up and rusted. It took me and hour and 15 minutes of hammering to get them off And I put a new caliper on the driver's side. The inside pad was worn all the way down while the other wasn't bad at all. So I assumed it was a bad caliper.

On short trips, less than 10 miles, it doesn't make the noise.

Once again your insight is appreciated.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 07-22-2008, 09:58 AM
j cAT j cAT is offline
AF Fanatic
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 10,898
Thanks: 8
Thanked 432 Times in 431 Posts
Re: A new noise....bearing?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gbuzz71
I put brand new rotors on the front. The original rotors were all chewed up and rusted. It took me and hour and 15 minutes of hammering to get them off And I put a new caliper on the driver's side. The inside pad was worn all the way down while the other wasn't bad at all. So I assumed it was a bad caliper.

On short trips, less than 10 miles, it doesn't make the noise.

Once again your insight is appreciated.

the info appears to show caliper/brake fluid as the cause....bad caliper pins,a rusted caliper piston, contaminated fluid.....I would re bleed the brake calipers by opening the bleed screw and then push cal piston fully back so as to dump all the brake fluid in the caliper until the fluid is clear....do one cal at a time and do not allow brake res to go empty.....


cal pins must slide easy if too tight sand, file or replace....


brake pads must also move with ease if not file pad backing metal to accomplish this ........
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 07-22-2008, 01:04 PM
silicon212's Avatar
silicon212 silicon212 is offline
Confoundingly Lucid
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 3,901
Thanks: 5
Thanked 31 Times in 31 Posts
Send a message via ICQ to silicon212
Re: A new noise....bearing?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gbuzz71
I put brand new rotors on the front. The original rotors were all chewed up and rusted. It took me and hour and 15 minutes of hammering to get them off And I put a new caliper on the driver's side. The inside pad was worn all the way down while the other wasn't bad at all. So I assumed it was a bad caliper.

On short trips, less than 10 miles, it doesn't make the noise.

Once again your insight is appreciated.
Now, let me ask you another question. Did you thoroughly clean the new rotors before you installed them? They are shipped with an oily type coating to prevent rust and corrosion during storage. Sometimes, this isn't oily and is actually rather varnish-like. It MUST be cleaned off before you install the rotor, or it will lead to an overheated brake system and warped rotor. It will grab the pads and emulate a bad caliper.

j cAT - I tend to get 20k to 30k on a set of brakes. Do I use bad or low-quality components? Absolutely not. It has to do with the way I drive and not the quality of the brakes. Sure, Grandma might get 50k or better out of the factory brakes, but someone who is hard on them might not get 20k. Don't automatically assume that because he had to change his at 36k that his calipers are sticking. That, in and of itself, is rare and if both are actually 'sticking', that would tell me something more along the lines of a faulty combo valve.
__________________
1988 9C1 - Modified LM1 @ 275HP/350TQ - TH700R4 - 3.08 8.5" Disc Rear - see it at http://www.silicon212.org/9c1!
2005 Crown Vic P71 - former AZ DPS - 4.6 liters of pure creamy slothness!
1967 El Camino L79/M20 old school asphalt raper

Remember - a government that is strong enough to give you everything you need, is also strong enough to take everything you have.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 07-23-2008, 05:57 AM
Gbuzz71 Gbuzz71 is offline
AF Newbie
Thread starter
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 41
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: A new noise....bearing?

Quote:
Originally Posted by silicon212
Now, let me ask you another question. Did you thoroughly clean the new rotors before you installed them? They are shipped with an oily type coating to prevent rust and corrosion during storage. Sometimes, this isn't oily and is actually rather varnish-like. It MUST be cleaned off before you install the rotor, or it will lead to an overheated brake system and warped rotor. It will grab the pads and emulate a bad caliper.

j cAT - I tend to get 20k to 30k on a set of brakes. Do I use bad or low-quality components? Absolutely not. It has to do with the way I drive and not the quality of the brakes. Sure, Grandma might get 50k or better out of the factory brakes, but someone who is hard on them might not get 20k. Don't automatically assume that because he had to change his at 36k that his calipers are sticking. That, in and of itself, is rare and if both are actually 'sticking', that would tell me something more along the lines of a faulty combo valve.
I did not clean the rotors before installation. Is it too late?
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 07-23-2008, 05:46 PM
silicon212's Avatar
silicon212 silicon212 is offline
Confoundingly Lucid
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 3,901
Thanks: 5
Thanked 31 Times in 31 Posts
Send a message via ICQ to silicon212
Re: A new noise....bearing?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gbuzz71
I did not clean the rotors before installation. Is it too late?
Unfortunately, yes. You're looking at having them surfaced, and new pads (again).
__________________
1988 9C1 - Modified LM1 @ 275HP/350TQ - TH700R4 - 3.08 8.5" Disc Rear - see it at http://www.silicon212.org/9c1!
2005 Crown Vic P71 - former AZ DPS - 4.6 liters of pure creamy slothness!
1967 El Camino L79/M20 old school asphalt raper

Remember - a government that is strong enough to give you everything you need, is also strong enough to take everything you have.
Reply With Quote
 
Reply

POST REPLY TO THIS THREAD

Go Back   Automotive Forums Car Chat > Chevrolet > Avalanche | C&K | Silverado | Suburban | Tahoe > Silverado


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:46 AM.

Community Participation Guidelines | How to use your User Control Panel

Powered by: vBulletin | Copyright Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
 
 
no new posts