Rattling Window

[ukrkoz]

ok, last thing i need to know on my son's 95 eclipse.
driver side window rattles mercylessly every time we shut the door. it's like something's totally loose on window guides, or something.
we are planning on long weekend repairs - swap oil pan, bumper, headlights, might as well take care of this too. window moves back and for a lot. anyone had same problem and knows the cure? or they are just made that way, as both windows do same?

[4g63gst20]

for me is only the driver side, and i have heard that is a common problem. i just roll down my window before closing the door when i'm siting in the driver seat.

[ukrkoz]

i think i know why it rattles, though. if they share same body with a spider model, they went cheap on non-convertibles, and did not install window guides/frame on the upper half of the doors. thus, window is not retained by anything when it is being raised up and wobbles in the guides. i'll look into securing guides inside the door somehow, we have to remove panels anyways, as speakers are ripped. we had none of this issue on 94 body.

[david-b]

There's a write up somewhere about how to stop it. There's a little plastic clip that when you take off the inside of the door, it's easily accessible and I believe all you do is squeeze it to tighten it. I'm looking for it right now. It's not hard though I remember that. Still have to do mine.

[david-b]

And here it is
http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/arti...ow-rattle.html

[ukrkoz]

you are a good man! i owe you one!
i like the a/b foam idea either. we call it a/b foam in the trade as it comes in 2 seperate cans. polyurethane foam, foam and activator, hence 2 parts. i have silverado that rattles anywhere possible, as it's cheap plastic everywhere, and of course i have sub and run music fairly loud.. but i love the car because of my size and its size. will get that foam and coat panels in both eclipse and silvie.
once again, much thanks, bro! or sis

[david-b]

Originally Posted by ukrkoz

you are a good man! i owe you one!
i like the a/b foam idea either. we call it a/b foam in the trade as it comes in 2 seperate cans. polyurethane foam, foam and activator, hence 2 parts. i have silverado that rattles anywhere possible, as it's cheap plastic everywhere, and of course i have sub and run music fairly loud.. but i love the car because of my size and its size. will get that foam and coat panels in both eclipse and silvie.
once again, much thanks, bro! or sis

You can repay me in beer and pretzels.
I'm thinking of doing my hatch with the foam. Never got around to it yet. May stop some leaking too.
And david-b is definitely a bro

[ukrkoz]

apologiese, but alcohol and us don't cross the ways. but i wish you all the best and i mean it, so you'll have your aura improved as of now.

if you have squeek in the hatch, like we did, it was the stop light. somehow, the plastic lense was doing loud squeeking noise. i just sprayed some clear lubricant on the edges and it is gone for well now.

[JScharF]

I wish my dad was as helpful! All he ever says is "You're an idiot, you should have never bought that foreign peice of junk." "You need to go to school to do anything on that car.."

Ugh.

[david-b]

Originally Posted by ukrkoz

apologiese, but alcohol and us don't cross the ways. but i wish you all the best and i mean it, so you'll have your aura improved as of now.

if you have squeek in the hatch, like we did, it was the stop light. somehow, the plastic lense was doing loud squeeking noise. i just sprayed some clear lubricant on the edges and it is gone for well now.

Ah well I work for Budweiser so I don't need any anyways. Pretzels are always a winner though.
I know it's the spoiler on mine. I installed the 97-98 Talon spoiler and I guess it's just the way it sits. Then the plastic, even though clipped in on every possible location, still rattles against the metal. All good though.

Glad I could help. And I agree, wish my Dad had done stuff like that.

[ukrkoz]

Originally Posted by JScharF

I wish my dad was as helpful! All he ever says is "You're an idiot, you should have never bought that foreign peice of junk." "You need to go to school to do anything on that car.."

Ugh.

oh, be respectful! never forget - by the time of reckoning, you'll be accounted for yours and others for their's.

anyways, i have easy fix for your dad's jingo patriotism. just show him that little sticker on the driver side door opening, i think it's down on the floor/doorstep, where it says that it's "proudly made in the usa". kansas city i believe. i don't think a single eclipse was ever made outside the coutry, it was designed for and fabricated in, with a bunch of mitsu parts in it. via DSM - diamond star motors, which is mitsu/chrysler consortium.

[david-b]

Mine (and a large majority of DSMs) was made in Normal Illinois. About 50 miles or so from here. Actually flew over the old plant in a DC3.

[violent31601]

I just deal with it, the whole car alone sounds like its going to fall apart when driving (common problem within DSM's).

I just turn the music up louder, I guess that doesn't really help your problem though....

[JScharF]

I do the same thing lol.

[ukrkoz]

95 eclipse windows slide up and down on 2 metal guides, approximately 2mm thick. rattle in the window comes from the front guide. to get to the source of rattle, please, follow this link:
http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/arti...ow-rattle.html
in this article, you are advised to "squeeze a PLASTIC clip". "brass looking things", or rusty in our case, are, actually, window brackets, sliding on the guides. they have U shaped part that encompasses the guide AND THE OPPOSITE END HOLDING THE WINDOW.
to provide smooth and no-lubricant operation, U shaped part of the bracket has delryn inserts inside, called "clips" in the article. delryn is a well known low friction and fairly durable plastic. it is, also, very brittle. please, do not squeeze the inserts/clips, or you are chancing snapping them in a half, like it happened on my car. fortunately, i only cracked it and it is still funtional. but if you break it completely, that winndow will go loose on the guide completely.
instead of squeezing the insert/clip, i took the whole bracket to the envil, sattled it on the narrow end, and hammered on the U-shaped part of the bracket, to bring METAL sides of it together. that brought delryn inserts together too, without damaging them.
you might, as well, squeeze METAL part of the bracket in a vise. i squeezed it to the point that delryn tips where snug against each other. even with that, plastic gives some, and allows bracket to slide back on the guide. if you over snugged the metal, you can spread it some with a flathead screwdriver.
helpful tip: when reinstalling the bracket, slide it on the window bolt 1st, letting it hang down loosely. reinstall the 10mm nut, tighten with fingers, then grasp the bracket and forth the U-shaped part of it, with delryn insert, onto the guide. the snugger it goes on the better it'll hold. then, tightene that nut with a wrench.
we just did both windows in our 95 eclipse. i had to remove the driver side bracket twice, as i did not get it snug enough from the get go.
i wouldn't call it 5 minute job, it's very awkward to get to the nut/bracket, but about 15 min it is.

also, while we had door panels off, we covered them anywhere we could with polyurathane foam, as advised in that article. and installed new 210W Fusion speakers. NO rattles of any kind now.