Houston, We Have A Problem - Project "Green Machine"........3.4 headers project

[xeroinfinity]

Is now Offically project "Green Hornet" , the GT just bit me in the ass!

Well the header project has hit a bump in the road(you could say), I popped the LIM off this morning.... and...

It looks like I have other issues, then just bad lifters, my cam appears to be slightly damaged.
The cam is seen thru those holes where it's all shiney....








And besides that, the inside is horrably dirty, which it wasn't when I did the heads/LIM gaskets in '06.

It's totally unacceptable and is probley coming out!!!
I do have an extra block ready, looks like a rebuild might be coming soon.

I just need to get it cleaned up so I can inspect the cam more closly, then wiegh the pros and cons....

At least I have the front manifold and cross over off.

[xeroinfinity]

Originally Posted by The Green Hornet

[taking routine inventory on his gadgetry before cruising into action] Hornet gun... check. Hornet sting... check. Let's roll, Kato!

The Kato Show, this one's going to hurt.

[Vipey1337]

... ouch. I really need an engine rebuild myself, my engine does very strange things that it shouldn't do when I go WOT...

[grfnkl]

Um WOW! That doesn't look good at all! At least you have the other block pretty much ready to go!

[xeroinfinity]

Well, after great consideration and a dozen opinuins, I am not pulling the motor.
After I cleand up the cam and took a closer look thier are no groves or worn spots, just burnt a little, probley the bad lifters.
So I started cleaning up these nasty parts, here are a few pics, that will or should make you want to change your oil more often. (Not my doing, previous owners need a kick to the head(or frying pan) )

Upper intake with the sharp casting edges removed.








Kinda sketchy , about 15 minutes of work, they need to soak in the tank over night along with the heads & valve covers..
Speaking of heads, they look prety good other then dirty.


The block is horrible dirty to, this is embarassing.


So I'll probley drop the oil pan and pull the timing cover tomorrow morning, get those cleaned up. Mainly I need to make sure all the crud is out so the oil can flow properly.
The heads was not draining down well at all, which is probly what made the lifter jamb thus bending 2 push rods.

I almost call MMS for a stage 2 kit lastnight....
I didnt realize those kits come with the U & L intakes P/P. I just hate paying someone for something I can do my self.

[skibum1111]

That oil filter... Looks alot like the orange can of death. Might have something to do with why the guts are so dirty.

[Gir-_-]

Originally Posted by xeroinfinity

Well, after great consideration and a dozen opinuins, I am not pulling the motor.
After I cleand up the cam and took a closer look thier are no groves or worn spots, just burnt a little, probley the bad lifters.
So I started cleaning up these nasty parts, here are a few pics, that will or should make you want to change your oil more often. (Not my doing, previous owners need a kick to the head(or frying pan) )

So I'll probley drop the oil pan and pull the timing cover tomorrow morning, get those cleaned up. Mainly I need to make sure all the crud is out so the oil can flow properly.
The heads was not draining down well at all, which is probly what made the lifter jamb thus bending 2 push rods.

I almost call MMS for a stage 2 kit lastnight....
I didnt realize those kits come with the U & L intakes P/P. I just hate paying someone for something I can do my self.

XI, you can send em a e-mail for a customized order, just take out all the stuff you dont need from the stageII like the U/LIM... Check ahead on his availability though with parts.... I'm still waiting for my trans mount, he said it was on back order... I may just request money back soon...

[xeroinfinity]

Originally Posted by skibum1111

That oil filter... Looks alot like the orange can of death. Might have something to do with why the guts are so dirty.

thats a temporary partical eliminator
When I did the head/LIM gaskets 2 years ago it was kinda rushed and I didnt spend a great deal of time with it, maybe to many beers....

Originally Posted by Gir-_-

XI, you can send em a e-mail for a customized order, just take out all the stuff you dont need from the stageII like the U/LIM... Check ahead on his availability though with parts.... I'm still waiting for my trans mount, he said it was on back order... I may just request money back soon...

Yeah I figured he would do a partial order. I did hear he was way backed up on orders. I think every other GA owner has found out about what these engines are realy capable of, well with some fat ca$h and a few busted knuckles !

So I have one valve cover ready for baking, just finished it a couple hours ago. Color matches the body pretty well too.

[Gir-_-]

Originally Posted by xeroinfinity

thats a temporary partical eliminator
When I did the head/LIM gaskets 2 years ago it was kinda rushed and I didnt spend a great deal of time with it, maybe to many beers....



Yeah I figured he would do a partial order. I did hear he was way backed up on orders. I think every other GA owner has found out about what these engines are realy capable of, well with some fat ca$h and a few busted knuckles !

So I have one valve cover ready for baking, just finished it a couple hours ago. Color matches the body pretty well too.

so how exactly should one paint their engine parts?

clean very well, paint evenly... bake ?

[xeroinfinity]

Originally Posted by Gir-_-

so how exactly should one paint their engine parts?

clean very well, paint evenly... bake ?

Not that bake!

I have a parts dishwasher, then I scrape and brush any remaining grease. Followed by a hot soapy bath(with Dawn dishsoap), and I dry them completly. I even had to wet sand the valve covers, they had massive stains I wanted to remove so it didnt screw up the paint.

Baking is done in a over. I use an old electric oven with dual heating elements, I made it for powder coating but it works for this too. A gas stove would work(or even you BBQ grill) but I am leary of the ketone fumes ignighting in the oven.... KaBoom ! lol

UI is primed and ready for bake #1
I'll get some pics up later!

[BNaylor]

Which one are you installing the S&S headers on JC?

[xeroinfinity]

Originally Posted by BNaylor

Which one are you installing the S&S headers on JC?

On the GT... dont mind the GTO.


Here are the valve covers after the final bake(done
), they look great !



Here is the intake after the first cooking. Taping off the 3400 right now.....

[xeroinfinity]

All I can say is WOW ! The intake looks great!! Just needs to final bake and its done.





Now to paint the lower intake. This will take longer to prep for paint, another busy day.

Probly start assembly first part of the week, wish me luck that I dont chip to much paint.

[xeroinfinity]

Gir, I didnt fully answer your question, you can clean these parts at home DIY. You can buy stuff from auto parts stores to clean them, gas works realy well but is dangerous. Just alot more work and time involved. One could also find a place that can clean your parts.

I also wouldnt recomend using your moms oven to bake your parts, she'd flip ! Not to mention the smell.

Here is the lower intake, masked and done.





Edit....

I did get half the pistons cleand up.

[xeroinfinity]

Finished cleaning the block today, set the new lifters in ready for assembly.
Now I just need to double check the heads, do a leak down test and they'll be ready..... I hope. lol