The 'Inteligant Design' website

[-Davo]

I miss spelt Intelligent on purpose, because there is nothing intelligent about it.

But this is hilarious:

http://www.uncommondescent.com/resources/

opcorn:

Sit back, and.....it begins....


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH

AAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAH


My neck hurts.

I hope no one here actually believes this shit, for those who want hardcore proof that evolution took place, watch this one hour video (last hour is Q&A):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVRsWAjvQSg

It's pretty much awesome.

The professor talks about how evolution works, why it works, where it comes from, and supplies his arguments with factual and scientific evidence that the ID argument was thrown out of an American court because ID advocates couldn't refute the proof laid by the smart guys. I love education.

[NSX-R-SSJ20K]

There was one guy who said that if you already believe something all the facts will support your theory. I take it ID is some Religious BS and all books should be discontinued in printing as its a waste of paper. =p

[72chevelleOhio]

For someone who doesn't believe in religion, you sure spend an awful lot of time researching/posting about it....

Are you secretly worried your making the right decision, or does hate rule all??

[ericn1300]

I just read the preamble on their site and decided to go no further. When they say “At the same time, intelligent design (ID) offers a promising scientific alternative to materialistic theories of biological and cosmological evolution” it becomes obvious that they are trying to substitute spiritual or mystical beliefs in place of material evidence.

[thrasher]

There is no physical evidence for intelligent design, nor will there ever be. There is overwhelming physical evidence for evolution to the point that it is ridiculous to even attempt to argue against. If anyone disagrees, they haven't picked up a modern biology textbook in 30 years. Case closed.

[s14silvias14]

I think intelligent design and the theory of evolution should not be compared at all. Everyone knows that sides will be taken, much like sports of course, and that it will be an ongoing battle...as is everything involving religion and politics. Plus, considering ID to be an alternative to evolution sounds like having two different options of medicine to treat an illness. I personally feel that something can be taken from both points of view and as a result, assemble my own theory on how things work...because we all want to evolve on a daily basis.

[-Davo]

Originally Posted by 72chevelleOhio

For someone who doesn't believe in religion, you sure spend an awful lot of time researching/posting about it....

Are you secretly worried your making the right decision, or does hate rule all??

History and origin of religion is a fascinating topic.

On topic, NSX, ID is the belief (from Christianity) that Genesis is an accurate historical acount. It takes into acount the creation of man kind and life as we know it, occured roughly 6,000 years ago.

Intellegent Design is just a cover up for Creationism. The courts managed to prove that.

[ericn1300]

my biggest problem with the so called "literal interpetaion" of Genisis is that when it says the earth and heavens were created in 6 days. who's days where they? before the earth was created there was no "earth day" to reference so how long is a day to god, a being that has always been and always will be? maybe his days a lot longer relative to ours witch would put the year dating off as well.

i like the way the catholics have come to term with it. god creates thru evolution.

[drunken monkey]

C'mon guys, Intelligent Design is too easy a target.....

[fredjacksonsan]

The reason that it's intelligent is that evolution works.

The truth is, we can't be sure with the information we have whether we were created or evolved....everything is speculation without proof.

What proof we have of evolution is just that - proof of evolution. People say "prove God exists" well, you can't....that's what faith is.

In any event, if this picks up a bit we'll move it to Philosophy.

[s14silvias14]

Originally Posted by ericn1300

my biggest problem with the so called "literal interpetaion" of Genisis is that when it says the earth and heavens were created in 6 days. who's days where they? before the earth was created there was no "earth day" to reference so how long is a day to god, a being that has always been and always will be? maybe his days a lot longer relative to ours witch would put the year dating off as well.

i like the way the catholics have come to term with it. god creates thru evolution.

I went to private schools from kindergarten through my last year of college. I remember once when I was little that the ages for some of the people in the Old Testament were rediculous. I think Abraham was in the hundreds of years old or something like that.
If you look at things now, there are less people within the Church trying to force views onto others like they used to. The Good Book and its teachings were literally just teachings, and I don't know how people got to take it so literally with the events it "chronicled." But I do know that both teams need their allstar players in order to make competition fierce. By that I mean religion has ID and non-religious/agnostics have evolution and maybe something else.

[vinnym86]

i'll post it again:

THE TRUTH

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[bmx419gt]

I think ID is way easier to accept than other theories. ID: God created Earth. God has always been and will always be here. Evolution or Big Bang Theory: A boom created the universe. Then EVERYTHING evolved from one single-cell bacteria.... Yea right. Explain to me where the bang came from.

Anyway, like poster fredjacksonsan said, "..that's what faith is." Either idea or theory takes faith, neither can be proven 100%.

BTW: I imagine most of you guys who support the evolution theory obviously learned most of it in school throughout one's early youth days. So it was kind of drilled into your brains, while Christianity was only something you have heard about, but not actually taken time to really learn about. I'm 19 and have spent the last few weeks learning about Christianity, there is tons of proof supporting it, even scientific proof. I didn't even know til recently that even dinosaurs and cavemen are mentioned in the Bible.
You just have to take time to learn about each side before making your final judgement.
Just my two cents.

Edit* I found this tonight.

Originally Posted by -Davo

Now, I'm all for believe what you want, and good for them for being conned into something so retarded but this is just pathetic.

http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbul...d.php?t=761951
What happened to that statement Davo?

[s14silvias14]

bmx419gt, you may have a point there on the ease of acceptance of either side. People generally like the simpler answers to their questions. Also, since these are just theories, they can be changed, and are therefore not 100%...which we already agree on. But since you have only been spending a few weeks learning about it, there is still a long ways to go...it is too interesting to pass up.

I was raised Catholic, went to private Catholic and Jesuit (college) schools from ages 5-23, and studied more than one religion. Yet, I still believe that the theory of evolution still has more pull than the simpler explanation. But, that is my choice. I also know that just because I was surrounded by religion, nothing was forced upon me (opposite of what you said about evolution being drilled into our young minds.) to accept God as the Creator. I don't know about other schools but I learned about evolution in second grade, right when I made my Communion.

I also wonder how many public school kids went to Sunday school/PSR to learn about religion when they were little. Seems to me that when I was a kid, every public school kid had to go...because religion had more influence over people than it does now with all that controversy they always face.

[-Davo]

...Did anyone go to the link and understand what I was pointing fun at?

BMX, I think you are studying the wrong side of the religion.

Oh, and edit, too, I don't mean to be a complete asshole, but there actually isn't any evidence. At all. Ever.

If you want to study Christianity, study the existence of Jesus. The truth will shock you.