Hydro Fule Conversion

[cutlasscrazy]

This is a lagit site, Or rather wil this even work for any car. So here is the link let me know what ou think: http://www.water4gas.com/2books.htm

[xeroinfinity]

I would say no it doesnt work with out even looking at the link..... If you can burn water everyone would be doing it right now.

Of coarse you could use electricity to turn the water into hydrogen then burn that or use a fuel cell. But it would take a few kilo watts to convert the water to hydrogen.

Just cant beat these perto companies.

[Dastardly]

The website it self looks like it was made back in 1995. Lot of those scammer sites look like this. Everyone trying to sell something. opcorn:

[bartlaton]

It works for some people. I have read the books and it seems feasible to me, but it is a new idea, or rather a discovered forgotten one. The engine that preceeded the petrol engine was a water one, there was a water car museum in the USA, which has been closed recently. Not a scam. However, you'd have to make sure you knew your car and what you were doing before trying anything.

[xeroinfinity]

Charles Nelson Pogue made the first water carb back in the day.
If your engine burns water(water doesnt burn), thats a steam engine. lol

And even if you could turn the H2o into H2(hydrogen) it would cost more then its worth, plus the gas engine cant burn H2.

It would be great though to run your automobile on water.
Though bottled water prices would sky rocket out of control just as the petro has in the last year.



and Welcome to AF bartlaton !

[bartlaton]

Well the steam engine is really a coal engine where the water/steam is the substance of conversion of heat to work - Not related.

No you can't burn water or we'd all be in trouble. What you can do though is convert water into a combustable gas using electrolysis. This is an easily demostratable chemical experiment. Also because its on-demand means that only enough H2+O2 is produced for the work required per second. It thereby takes out the risk of explosion from excess H2, which is one of the main problems with the H2 design. The energy needed, well it demostratably draws an insignificant current from a 12V battery to produce something like 10-50% of power required from your engine.
H2O -> (electrolysis on-demand) O2 + H2 + OH (gas) -> (combusts) H2O + energy (3xHC/gm - that makes your pistons go round & round).

Admittedly its effect is not totally the power of combustion, because in its hybrid operation, it also has the effect of improving the combustion of liquid fuel. It does this because normally the HC droplets sprayed into the engine are too coarse to combust well, but with the presence of fine molecules such as H2, the droplets are split into a finer spray.

I don't know why a gas engine won't combust on H2 as well.

The water used doesn't have to be distilled, but even if it was, the amount that is required is so small, that you wouldn't need to refill as much as you refuel for a 1 litre container.

There was a documentary on Australian TV which showed trucks trying this technology in hybrid form as an experiment & finding an average of 20% improvement on fuel economy. I've also heard that the South Korean manufacturing industry also substantially benfits from this technology in their generators. It is working where it's been tried. More work probably needs to be done on the science & engineering to justify the 'energy surplus?'.

To produce a water engine, well it was done before the petrol engine was developed, & that worked. It would cost a bit, but probably no more than was required to produce the petrol version. Red tape is a problem. And for the average person so is $. However it is possible to use a hybrid design to upgrade your engine simply (diy steps) & affordably (ie. $100s not $1000s or $10000s).