Problems with Zero Paints

[hornet1]

Hi everybody, I have a problem with my zero paints. It seems that they disapear from te bottles although the lid ist closed tight. Is there anybody with the same problem and is there a possibility to stop this phenomen. Looks like it gases out through the plastik bottle. any help would be much appreciated, best regards Adi

[stevenoble]

Originally Posted by hornet1

Hi everybody, I have a problem with my zero paints. It seems that they disapear from te bottles although the lid ist closed tight. Is there anybody with the same problem and is there a possibility to stop this phenomen. Looks like it gases out through the plastik bottle. any help would be much appreciated, best regards Adi

It's because they are pre thinned and some of the thinner evaporates over time, it is normal.You can simply shake the bottle and add more thinner when you use them and they will be ok.They don't 'gas out' because there is no gas in them to begin with.

[MPWR]

Funny, Gio and I were just complaining about this yesterday.

Yeah, they do that. The volatile solvents evaporate through the plastic bottle, and slowly the level decreases (as the paint gets thicker). It's really the only real strike against Zero paints is that plastic bottles are a poor storage option, especially if you're not planning to use the paint within a couple of months. To stop the problem, you can of course transfer the paint into a more suitable container- like a clean sealable glass jar.

You can also replace the volatiles lost by adding compatible reducer to the paint. You just need to add some Lechler's thinner before you spray, and it should work as well as the day the color was first mixed. Even if you haven't lost any volume to evaporation, I'd recommend thinning Zero before spraying. They are certainly airbrushable out of the bottle, but reducing them further will allow you to paint in very thin, smooth coats.

[gionc]

It's from a year or two that I don't need any cocaine or herbs to achieve my design performances due the Zero vapors. And I invest all those saved munny on MFH stuff J/K.

Like Andy say: it's quite the only complain we'll do, Steve know the thing from the start (or at leas I report is many times) so I guess it's hard/expencive to find a solution. Window open and spare thinner bottle is the solution for now

[hornet1]

thanks guys for the quick replys. I found an answer on the zero paint homepage to. Its listed on their FAQ page that the shelftime is 6 to 9 month. I decided to order some glass jars from an online supplier to store my paints, because I have to many in my paint storagebox to use them in a short periode of time.

[stevenoble]

Originally Posted by hornet1

I decided to order some glass jars from an online supplier to store my paints

Can you provide a link to the supplier of these glass jars?? I think they would be a handy item to have as well.

[hornet1]

of course, no problem, it´s a supplier in Berlin / Germany and the Homepage is in German only. They have glases from 15ml up.
http://glaeserundflaschen.de/

[gionc]

Originally Posted by hornet1

of course, no problem, it´s a supplier in Berlin / Germany and the Homepage is in German only. They have glases from 15ml up.
http://glaeserundflaschen.de/

Interesting, BTW I bought in the chemist some 50 ml (they got also 100, 200, 500 and 1000 ml) done by dark glass and solvent proof (hopefully), they seems ok to store decanted TS and Zeros and cost 50 cent (eur)

[Decs0105]

Steve knows about the problem but his main reason for the plastic bottles is that they are lighter and therefore the shipping costs will be less (and maybe safer because they can't break that easily ). Maybe a option for "glass" or "plastic" bottles would be the best way to go. Afterall he has the glass bottles for the 2K clear so I guess he would be able to supply the normal paints in them too. Just ask about glass bottles when you make your order, speaking of my experiance... it works sometimes

I have about 20+ plastic bottles for sale soon (just pm me if you are interested ) because yesterday arrived a order with some glass bottles (I can't stand if I look at the paints and they disappear without using them ). If you are looking for good glass bottles like the Alclad II ones (available in 15ml - 30ml - 60ml - 120ml), the shape is called "boston round" + phenolic caps with a polycone liner.

[ariel]

http://www.thecarycompany.com/Main.html

http://www.specialtybottle.com/

http://www.bottlesandtops.com/Default.aspx

http://www.ba-industrial.com/p-bottle.htm

[rideoutjeff]

Baby food bottles would probably do the trick as well, and for a fraction of the cost. Even if you don't know anyone with an infant, you can get them for less than 60 cents Canadian, which is probably a lot less than you'd pay for an empty paint bottle. Do what you like with the contents, and run the bottles through the dishwasher, and you're good to go. The caps are metal and seal when they're closed, so they should be ideal.

[MPWR]

Originally Posted by rideoutjeff

you can get them for less than 60 cents Canadian,

Used to be that Canadian dollars were what we used to light our cigarettes with and blow our noses in. But these days, if you convert $0.60 CAN into USD, that's some serious money!

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