-
Grand Future Air Dried Fresh Beef Dog Food
Air Dried Dog Food | Fresh Beef

Carnivore Diet for Dogs

Go Back   Automotive Forums Car Chat > Chevrolet > Camaro | Firebird > Engine and Transmission
Register FAQ Community
Engine and Transmission Discuss Engine, Transmission, and all other performance modifications here.
Closed Thread Show Printable Version Show Printable Version | Subscription Subscribe to this Thread
 
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 04-26-2008, 09:19 AM
666_speed's Avatar
666_speed 666_speed is offline
Son of Satan
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 4,965
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Got to the dyno....Thoughts, input?

2004 GTO M6 39,1xx miles. Stock, 350FWHP.

TSP 233/239 .595/.603 112
Patriot Gold dual .650 springs kit
Hardened 7.400 pushrods
LS2 chain
6900 rpm redline
K&N in the box filter
and a tune.

326/312 at the rear wheels.

Obviously the exhaust is hurting these numbers quite a bit. Any thoughts? The first dyno pull netted 277/271 at the wheels after a base tune.

FOREWARN, I didn't go in expecting a ton of horsepower with a cam only. I know there are a thousand other things that assist the cam and the other way around. Basically, I'm just looking for thoughts or helpful input. Thanks.

And to those who say it's stupid to start with camming a car...well...I have a cammed GTO and you don't
__________________
  #2  
Old 04-27-2008, 07:15 AM
Morley Morley is offline
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 1,983
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: Got to the dyno....Thoughts, input?

Quote:
Originally Posted by 666_speed
Any thoughts?
My first thought is that you are on the wrong forum...This is the F body forum.
  #3  
Old 04-27-2008, 09:58 AM
goldz28's Avatar
goldz28 goldz28 is offline
AF Moderator
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 4,458
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: Got to the dyno....Thoughts, input?

Same motor and 6 knows everyone here. I think he knows this is an F-body forum, no need to be a smart ass.
__________________
2008 G8 GT ~ 2004 Silverado LT ~ 1998 z-28
Tuned By TJ Wong - Wong's Performance Engineering
  #4  
Old 04-27-2008, 12:10 PM
Morley Morley is offline
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 1,983
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: Got to the dyno....Thoughts, input?

Quote:
Originally Posted by goldz28
6 knows everyone here. I think he knows this is an F-body forum,
And I know this because....? No need to start slinging insults.
  #5  
Old 04-27-2008, 12:53 PM
stone_mound_camaro's Avatar
stone_mound_camaro stone_mound_camaro is offline
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 1,579
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: Got to the dyno....Thoughts, input?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Morley
And I know this because....? No need to start slinging insults.

thought youve been around here long enough to know..o well...soo wait a second....the cam hurt your numbers? it went from 3 something to 2 hundred something?
__________________

car audio guru...
  #6  
Old 04-27-2008, 05:54 PM
666_speed's Avatar
666_speed 666_speed is offline
Son of Satan
Thread starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 4,965
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: Got to the dyno....Thoughts, input?

My apologies for posting here. I've owned an F body for the last 5 years. It is an LS1, thought this forum would be more helpful and interested in the information than the GTO forum.

About the dyno.

I do not have stock dyno results for my GTO. Only after the base tune which was 277/271 (the first dyno pull after the cam). Then after the dyno tune we came up with 326/312.

Anyone considering this cam, we netted 49rwhp on the dyno from the base tune to get it to run decent for a few weeks until we could get to the dyno and the final tune with no other mods. Realistically, I saw a 55-60rwhp with the cam only.

Time for more mods
__________________
  #7  
Old 04-27-2008, 06:09 PM
goldz28's Avatar
goldz28 goldz28 is offline
AF Moderator
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 4,458
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: Got to the dyno....Thoughts, input?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Morley
And I know this because....? No need to start slinging insults.
Sorry just seemed like you were coming off as an ass thats why I said that. I apologize. Just thought you knew 6 when he had his black Camaro.
__________________
2008 G8 GT ~ 2004 Silverado LT ~ 1998 z-28
Tuned By TJ Wong - Wong's Performance Engineering
  #8  
Old 04-27-2008, 07:20 PM
Morley Morley is offline
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 1,983
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: Got to the dyno....Thoughts, input?

Quote:
Originally Posted by 666_speed
My apologies for posting here. I've owned an F body for the last 5 years. It is an LS1, thought this forum would be more helpful and interested in the information than the GTO forum.
Since the LS engines seem to be more plentiful in the GTO & Y body you'd probably get better suggestions there (GTO forums), especially since the exhaust & induction tract may be playing a big part in your "disappointing" numbers. One of the better GTO forums whould probably be able to offer more useful advice.
You are truely loosing power somewhere, there were/are stock LS1 F bodies that dynoed in at 305 RWHP and in that neighborhood.
  #9  
Old 04-27-2008, 07:23 PM
Morley Morley is offline
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 1,983
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: Got to the dyno....Thoughts, input?

Quote:
Originally Posted by goldz28
Sorry just seemed like you were coming off as an ass thats why I said that. I apologize. Just thought you knew 6 when he had his black Camaro.
No, I wasn't trying to be an ass. His question went without a reply for a couple days so I thought everyone was ignoring it because it was the wrong forum.

If I'm going to be an ass it won't "seem" like it...you'll know for sure.
  #10  
Old 04-27-2008, 07:24 PM
ddnspider ddnspider is offline
AF Newbie
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 39
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: Got to the dyno....Thoughts, input?

whats the exhaust setup?somethings wrong with those numbers.a big 23X/23X duration cam like that should be high 3XXrwhp with minimal mods.did u install it yourself?
__________________
1998 turbo TA
  #11  
Old 04-27-2008, 07:43 PM
72chevelleOhio 72chevelleOhio is offline
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,248
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Re: Got to the dyno....Thoughts, input?


Quote:
Originally Posted by Morley
No need to start slinging insults.
Where?
Quote:
Originally Posted by goldz28
thats why I said that. I apologize.
What?.Why?
Quote:
Originally Posted by goldz28
just seemed like you were coming off as an ass
...seemed that way to me too..
Quote:
Originally Posted by Morley
And I know this because....?
You can't remember who you've talked to on here? Old timers disease...
Relax and take your happy pills Morley, they are in the container like this one I have........found......somehow....
Quote:
Originally Posted by 666_speed
Time for more mods
Full exhaust?

Quote:
Originally Posted by 666_speed
...I have a cammed GTO and you don't
D!ck.....


  #12  
Old 04-27-2008, 09:50 PM
goldz28's Avatar
goldz28 goldz28 is offline
AF Moderator
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 4,458
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: Got to the dyno....Thoughts, input?

So when they say 305 stock are they meaning at the crank or at the wheels? I heard teh 04 GTO's had 350 stock but where is that at the wheels or the crank? Oh well, 6 full exhaust my man
__________________
2008 G8 GT ~ 2004 Silverado LT ~ 1998 z-28
Tuned By TJ Wong - Wong's Performance Engineering
  #13  
Old 04-27-2008, 10:08 PM
ZXeno ZXeno is offline
AF Newbie
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 2
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: Got to the dyno....Thoughts, input?

The '04 GTO's ran LS1's right? If I'm not mistaken, those were putting down 350~ at the crank and about 300 - 320~ at the RW. Only reason I know is because I was looking at one and decided against it after seeing the pricetag.
  #14  
Old 04-28-2008, 08:40 AM
stieh2000's Avatar
stieh2000 stieh2000 is offline
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 827
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: Got to the dyno....Thoughts, input?

You just need to get that engine to breath better to really take advantage of the cam.

Ported/Polished TB
LS6 intake (if it didnt come with one)
Full Exhaust
Better Cylinder Heads
__________________
Apperance Mods: Firebird wheels of mysterious origin , Floormats , and a quarter sized dent behind the passenger door from a TV I dropped!
  #15  
Old 04-28-2008, 12:45 PM
666_speed's Avatar
666_speed 666_speed is offline
Son of Satan
Thread starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 4,965
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: Got to the dyno....Thoughts, input?

Thanks for the replies and information.

I know where I'm heading and what I'm going to do to the car from this point. I'll keep you guys updated.

Stock LS1, that cam = 326/312 @ rear wheels.

Someone lock this thread please.
__________________
 
Closed Thread

POST REPLY TO THIS THREAD

Go Back   Automotive Forums Car Chat > Chevrolet > Camaro | Firebird > Engine and Transmission


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:20 AM.

Community Participation Guidelines | How to use your User Control Panel

Powered by: vBulletin | Copyright Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
 
 
no new posts