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Old 04-09-2008, 02:27 PM
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98 Olds 88 LS Blower Motor Replacement

I need a little help getting at the blower motor in this car. I've taken off a couple of plastic cover pieces at the bottom of the dash, and it looks to me that the blower motor is inserted with the fan facing towards the passenger side, but I can' tsee any way of getting at it. There are other plastic parts underneath the dash roughly in the middle (over the hump) that look to me like they have to come off, but I don't see any bolts holding the darn things up. Can someone shed some light on how to get at this motor?

By the way the motor still works in the three lower speeds but not the high speed and it makes a grinding noise. I know the motor has to be replaced because when I turn it right off the grinding noise stops. I may also need to replace the resistor, but am trying to get the motor replaced first to see if everything is OK just by replacing the motor. If not, then I'll do the resistor as well. I have bought the motor already. I've replaced one in a different car (Ford) and it wasn't anything as difficult as this one!

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Re: 98 Olds 88 LS Blower Motor Replacement

Isn't an '98 C/H car blower motor still under the hood? Could be why you can't find it under the dash....
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Re: 98 Olds 88 LS Blower Motor Replacement

I suppose that depends on the model, doesn't it? I replaced one under the dash of late 80's Ford years ago !!!

But I'll have a look under the hood, just in case.
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Re: 98 Olds 88 LS Blower Motor Replacement

After looking under the hood, I do see what appears to be the end of the blower motor (with the electrical connection). It is mounted onto the firewall near the centre but there is a steel bracket right in front of it coming up from the rear of the engine block that prevents removal of the old and installation of the new unit. This bracket supports two hoses and the O2 sensor cable. Can this bracket be removed to get access to the blower? How?

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Re: 98 Olds 88 LS Blower Motor Replacement

You should be able to just bend it- then put it back when you're finished-- removing the crossbar (from across the shock towers) also is a big help
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Re: 98 Olds 88 LS Blower Motor Replacement

Thanks, brcidd, I'll see if I can bend it tomorrow. I don't suppose that it's bolted to the block so it could be removed, huh? I wasn't able to feel any bolts there and of course can't see in there!
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Re: 98 Olds 88 LS Blower Motor Replacement

Alright here's an update on my project.

I was able to remove the bar across the top of engine compartment and the bracket supporting tubes and cables from in front of the blower motor (I tried to bend it but it was too hard - the steel is quite thick). The bracket is secured with two nuts to bolts welded to the engine block. Unfortunately one of the nuts and a socket and extension fell down into the engine area and I suspect they're all on top of the plastic cover under the engine. Now I'll have to take that off to recover the nut and tools. Shucks.

I ran into a little problem besides that. I was able to salvage the rubber gaskets to mount the new motor, but the plastic cover over the motor broke at the small tube that the rubber tube connects to. The plastic is brittle after ten years of use and just broke off leaving a hole in the plastic cover! I called the dealer (this is a dealer part only) and they want $70 for that piece of crap which has to be ordered. I paid $68.00 for an aftermarket blower motor. Isn't that insane?

Is there a good place to get that part (part number 52-468-407 from for a reasonable price? What is the function of the small rubber tube coming back into the blower motor anyways? Could that not simply be plugged?

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Re: 98 Olds 88 LS Blower Motor Replacement

Does nayone know what this small tube does coming back into the motor cover? is it for A/C recycling setting?

I am wondering if I can just plug that hole or if I should pick up a fibreglass kit and repair it! There is no way i'm going to pay $70.00 for a cheap piece of GM plastic, lol.

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Re: 98 Olds 88 LS Blower Motor Replacement

That tube serves as ventilation for the blower motor windings- you can run without it- Probably won't hurt anything- just lessens the life of the new blower motor- but if you have a guarentee.........anyway- changing the HVAC module cover would not be fun....Since it is your own car- I'd fashion a repair to the tube and nipple......
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Re: 98 Olds 88 LS Blower Motor Replacement

I was afraid it might be for that purpose, I was hoping not, though. If that's the purpose of the tube, then I better not close it off - I know what excess heat can do to a motor. Likewise dust can do a lot of damage to a motor too and hence the need for the blower cover. I'm off to a hardware store to find a good epoxy to effect repairs to that small spout (or nipple) then. Thanks again.

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Re: 98 Olds 88 LS Blower Motor Replacement

OK, I've repaired the plastic cover and everything is back under the hood. This was a much more difficult job than I had figured on.

The noise is gone and the blower even works on high speed, but only when it feels like it. So now I need to get a new resistor under the dash. At least I still have the underdash stuff taken apart.

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Re: 98 Olds 88 LS Blower Motor Replacement

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So now I need to get a new resistor under the dash. At least I still have the underdash stuff taken apart. QC

IIRC, and you have the manual fan control, the resistors are under the hood mounted in the fan box on the firewall. Look to the left of where the fan is, there should be two, one for low speeds and one for high speed. BTW, you can put the "underdash stuff" back together!
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Re: 98 Olds 88 LS Blower Motor Replacement

OK, thanks, I am going to order the resistor tomorrow and see if I can find a similar part there.

Right to the left of the blower cover, there is a fuse box, is that where you say the resistors are HotZ28?

With brcidd's and your help, I'll get there yet.

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Re: 98 Olds 88 LS Blower Motor Replacement

just follow the blower motor wire back to the resistor.....its mounted in the HVAC module- up on top- below relay center
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Re: 98 Olds 88 LS Blower Motor Replacement

Thanks, brcidd.

I've never had to replace one of these resistors before on any of the dozen or so cars I've owned from cradle to grave (but then I've never owned a lemon as bad as this 98 Olds 88 before, LOL).

I've read that they are under the dash in some cars and I've read that they're mounted on top of the A/C unit under the hood to keep them cool because they tend to heat up quite a bit from providing the resistance for the lower fan speeds. So it sounds like this one is under the hood. I'm picking up the new unit later today, then I'll give it a whirl.

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