Struts, Swaybars

[atomic-G]

I need some advice on this subject.

My friend mechanic came over to my house and mentioned I should get a bar that is under the hood that will allow the wheels to stay on the road and not cause the steering wheel to gitter when accelerating. What is this bar called and how much would it cost? Also, would it be better to get just the bar or also get Stillen Struts or Swaybars?

Speaking of Struts and Swaybars. What's the difference and which would be better to get? Would I only need front struts, rear or both? Or is there something out there that would be better than both.

As far as handling on my car, there is nothing done to it. So I'm looking for any help in this field.

You'd think I was at a strip club, at the amount of money I'm spitting into this car

Thanks guys

[G22DET]

ok, here's the breakdown on the bars.
Front strut bar - holds the front struts together to increase chasis rigidity, in your engine bay.
Rear strut bar - holds the front struts together to increase chasis rigidity, in your trunk.
Rear swaybar - goes underneath the car, reduces bodyroll.
Stillen has all 3 of these available for the 99 G20. let me know if you are interested.

[P10DET]

Originally posted by atomicfrog
You'd think I was at a strip club, at the amount of money I'm spitting into this car

Oh, this is far more exciting and expensive than going to the peelers.

[G-Forces]

:hehe: You love using that word don't ya George.

But you'll get way more enjoyment out of your G than you would from those beotches at the club.

[P10DET]

Originally posted by G-Forces
:hehe: You love using that word don't ya George.

Well, I have to excercise what little knowledge I have of the local slang.

Originally posted by G-Forces
But you'll get way more enjoyment out of your G than you would from those beotches at the club.

Oh yes.

Hmmm......

G?

G-string?

G?

G-string?

No question, even though both can be expensive.

Make mine a G.

[T4 Primera]

Yep, if it's got tits or wheels ... it's gonna cost ya one way or another!

[P10DET]

Originally posted by T4 Primera
Yep, if it's got tits or wheels ... it's gonna cost ya one way or another!

Yep. The trick is determining which is the better ride. :right:

[T4 Primera]

Originally posted by P10DET


Yep. The trick is determining which is the better ride. :right:

.... So the designer of Harley Davidson Motorcycles is complaining to God about women .... " There's far too much variation in the front and rear ends, and the intake is too close to the exhaust"

God thinks "Hmmmn ... you may have a point there ...", then goes over to the celestial computer to check a few things.

When he comes back he says, "According to the latest figures, there are still far more men riding my creation than yours"!

[P10DET]

Originally posted by T4 Primera
.... So the designer of Harley Davidson Motorcycles is complaining to God about women .... " There's far too much variation in the front and rear ends, and the intake is too close to the exhaust"

God thinks "Hmmmn ... you may have a point there ...", then goes over to the celestial computer to check a few things.

When he comes back he says, "According to the latest figures, there are still far more men riding my creation than yours"!

ROTFLMAO!

[greekman]

Originally posted by P10DET
ROTFLMAO! [/b]

what does that mean george?

decent joke. good for a chuckle.

[P10DET]

Originally posted by greekman


what does that mean george?

decent joke. good for a chuckle.

Rolling On The Floor Laughing My Ass Off

[napakapa]

Hey luke, i got a 2000 G , you got the front strut bar for them?
email is [email protected]

[Dezoris]

http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/t7315.html
here is a post of mine, read up.

Here is another on strut bars
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/t6544.html

The main thing you want to remeber is front wheel drive cars understeer, so you dont want anything else that could break the front loose. The softer your suspension the more need for thicker sway bars to reduce roll, If you have a sport suspension, the less need for thicker sway bars.

Front wheel drive cars should have a thicker bar in the rear than the front IMO. For RWD cars the opposite since they tend to oversteer.

The reason you want a thicker sway bar when you have a stock or non sport suspension is beacuse the stock suspension does not keep the wheels glued to the road, it is all compression (travel (soft), and little rebound (soft)(a lot of travel) so you need the thicker bars to tranfer the load from one side to another, this is a cheap way for manufacturors to make the car seem more stable, soft suspension=large anti-roll/sway bars. When you have a stiff suspension, the shocks and springs keep the tires planted, which requires less transfer, if anything a thick swaybar will break you loose, in some situations.
Good luck

[G22DET]

yikes...Stillen's front strut bar wont fit the 2000 models because of the revised intake manifold...it wont clear.

[P10DET]

Originally posted by Dezoris
Front wheel drive cars should have a thicker bar in the rear than the front IMO. For RWD cars the opposite since they tend to oversteer.

It's not really good to make such a blanket statement. Other suspension factors come into play, as well as the design of the bars. The Sentra SE-R and the P10 G20 (the two SR20 cars I'm most familiar with) would be down right dangerous with a rear bar larger than the front.

Also, RWD cars do not necessarily tend to oversteer. Most actually tend to understeer. Again, suspension and tuning come into play. With RWD you do have the additional factor of power oversteer in some cars.

On an interesting side note, German engineers have a tendency to either not use swaybars or to use relatively small ones. They prefer to use the springs to get the roll stiffness they desire.