Front speakers and Head Unit

[JonB91]

so ive decided to just make a new thread since no one is gonna reply to one that already 4 pages long (i dont know if this is against the rules or anything lol, if it is just delete this)
anyway i just wanted to say that this forum is really great about helping people out and night b****ing at eachother the whole time you guys did great with helping me with audio stuff and deciding on a car in the first place haha

ive decide just to upgrade the whole cars audio after seeing that i can save like 500 dollars installing myself and buying off ebay, my question is after i have decided on a head unit how do i get it into my dash im pretty sure i have to take out my whole dash cuz its all one unit (o6 accord ex-l 6-disc changer) so are there any kits out there that wont make it look like crap i still need to keep all my climate control stuff??

seconly is how do i get my tweeters out if anyone is familiar with the accord they are literally a half an inch under my windshield do i have to go from underneath?

and my still standing question lol, why would the audio guy quote me for JL a1200 amp for the 12w3v3 subs the amp is a full range amp??

like i said if this is stupid or against the rules to make a new thread just delete it haha
thanx guys

edit: wow how hard is it to install all this yourself i just read through the thread at the top and im really confused, the big three" wiring thing i get what it is for but do you need it if you have a 600 watt sub and just new speakers and a new head unit??

[Galuple]

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Thats your dash kit there, don't know about how you'd get the tweeters out. As far as the big 3, if you're only running 600 watts and speakers, it shouldnt be a problem especially on a new accord. you could probably do even more and not have to worry about it yet.

[sickcallawayc12]

You usually don't have to worry about upgrading your electrical components until around 1k continuous RMS, on most vehicles. The Blazer has proven to handle like 1300 watts before the big 3 would be needed really.

I would get a Chilton or Haynes manual for your car on how to remove things like the dash and door panels. Chilton's books may be available for free through your local library, in print or online.

[PaulD]

you will definitely need the climate control stuff. I have 01 Accord, you will need a kit to fill in the rest of the dash space unless you get a double din unit. For the tweeters in the dash, mine just popped out (with a little prying using a small flathead screwdriver).

there is nothing particularly "wrong" with using a full range amp for bass speakers. We did this for like 20 years before class D amps came along. The two reasons you usually don't want to use full range amps is they are more expensive and consume more power from your car's electrical system than a Class D of comparable output power.

The big 3 are not a "MUST DO" thing, they are an additional thing that help your amps get max power AND reduce a little of the stress on your electrical system.

[nicks84]

Originally Posted by JonB91

ive decide just to upgrade the whole cars audio after seeing that i can save like 500 dollars installing myself and buying off ebay, my question is after i have decided on a head unit how do i get it into my dash im pretty sure i have to take out my whole dash cuz its all one unit (o6 accord ex-l 6-disc changer) so are there any kits out there that wont make it look like crap i still need to keep all my climate control stuff??

and my still standing question lol, why would the audio guy quote me for JL a1200 amp for the 12w3v3 subs the amp is a full range amp??

edit: wow how hard is it to install all this yourself i just read through the thread at the top and im really confused, the big three" wiring thing i get what it is for but do you need it if you have a 600 watt sub and just new speakers and a new head unit??

You DONT need the big 3, however, I will say, it never hurts. For now, it will help you if you decide to upgrade amps.

You can have a custom made dash kit made to suit your application if you want. IF not, you can buy one that will just work. As to wheter they make ones that suit your app, I dunno ? You woudl have to check, or call a local radio place and see if they can custom taylor what you need.

As to the full range amp, it is cappable of playing the lower frequencies, hence its category of "full Range". With the touch of a cross over , you will have a sub amp so to speak.

As for the install, it varies from car to car. The hardest part will be takin off door panels etc. .. . Also, though not reallly required, a good electrical back ground helps alot. It can be done withought, if you have time to do it and the right tools. But if your experienced, go for it. Maybe have a friend help you, and if you have ANY doubts or questions, ASK, it can only save your equipment (LOL). opcorn:

[JonB91]

alright cool thanx guys, i think im gonna try to install all of it myself i have a friend thats pretty good at that stuff, how hard is it to build you own ported box i was told it was better for like Rap/Rock or should i just buy it??

[sickcallawayc12]

A prefab ported box definitely isn't a good idea. Is your friend good at carpentry also? If you gotta buy a prefab box, buy a sealed one. Its the lesser of three evils.

[JonB91]

no prolly not at carpeting but i can prolly build the box if i see how i do it but i know the actual carpeting job is gonna be crappy then its gonna get hot in my trunk and like all the glue is gonna melt and i will have to staple the carpet down and it will look like **** lol

or it could be alot easier than that haha, if it is i could prolly figure out how to make a ported box, is it even worth it?

[sickcallawayc12]

I meant carpentry, wood making. Does your friend do many custom boxes? Have him help you out if he does. Yes its worth it. Making your own box is always, always, always, always the best way to go to get the best sound out of any sub.

[JonB91]

yeah i knew you meant carpeting like woodworking but i was talking abou the actual carpet that is gonna look like crap i think it will get hot and the glue will melt or something, no he doesnt do any costom boxes, if i make one do i just make the box to the demensions on JL's web site or is there somewere else.

i might just make one to see if i can and if i screw it up just buy one haha

[alphalanos]

Carpeting the box is simple. I usually make the end peices of my boxes recessed like .5 inch to give it a little lip to carry it by and it looks nice. To carpet it all you need is 3M spray adhesive either the High strengtt 90 or super 77 I think it is. Then order some carpet from partsexpress.com. Search google for how to carpet tutorial.

**** carpet tutorial http://www.teamtoxicbass.com/literat..._101/index.htm

[JonB91]

so do i just build the box in accordance to the JL website or is there somewere better to look? is there anywhere to find the manuals online for free that you know of?

[alphalanos]

Id say the manufacturer is best. Dude even if you mess up like 3 or 4 boxes, it STILL cheaper than buying one premade. So get some tools and try it out, materials are pretty cheap. Dont cut yourself and DONT RUSH. The slower you go the better it will turn out. I think crutchfield has a step by step guide on boxbuilding.

[JonB91]

yeah cool thanx i might just buy and build a box even before i even buy the sub, do i just cut it with a circular saw... im not a total dumb a** with tools i basically build everything that needs to be assembled in the house haha.. its like $26 for like a 6X5 sheet

edit: can you explain the rms things, the w3v3 page says the optimal rms is 300w and the max is 600w. so do i want an amp that puts out 300 or 600w ?? if i get a higher watt one how do i regulate it so i done play it on 600watts say on a road trip and catch my amp on fire?? lol

[PaulD]

stereos have an ingenious power regulation device, it's called a volume control. Remember, a 600 watt amp does NOT put out 600 watts all the time. The are also input sensitivity controls on an amp that help match the amp to the rest of the stereo.

Yes you can use a circular saw to build the box, but you better be REAL good at cutting straight lines (or like sanding a lot). A better choice is a table saw if you have access to one. You will also need a circular saw or router to cut the hole(s) in the top board for the sub(s) and any ports.

Always trust the manufacturers recomendations for box and port sizes, at least for a good starting point. They designed the sub and have a vested interest in making it sound the best. An experienced box maker may be able to tweak it a little to sound best in your application.