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01-01-2008, 10:17 PM
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Wideband o2 ~ $110
Im sure some of you have heard about the JAW diy wideband. Well I researched it a little bit and desided to give it a shot. The wideband is installed in the car and is working flawlessly. This is perfect for anyone who needs a WBo2 but doesn't have 200+ to spend.
PARTS: - JAW wbo2 controller $55 shipped - Bosch 17053 o2 sensor $52 - Project box $3 - Wires TOTAL = $110 for a working WBo2 http://www.14point7.com/JAW/JAW.htm *NOTE* - I bought the sensor from NAPA, every other store around here wanted $100+ for it. NAPA is by far the cheapest place I have found, even compared to online prices. Alan sells a few different versions of the controller. You can buy it assembled or as a DIY kit as I did. There is also an optional screen that can be used to display A/F ratio. This is how my DIY kit arrived.  Here are a few pics of the assembly - Very easy to do if you know how to soldier. Took me about 3hrs to assemble the unit.      The box is mounted under the passenger seat and the sensor is mounted in the 2nd o2 bung after the cat. I dont have a cat so that does not matter. Here is a screen shot of the WB running at idle. I now have tapped in the rpm signal so I can tune the car.  You can also datalog the values and import them into and excel graph. Here is a graph of my a/f ratio to rpms. Log was taken at 100hz (100 samples per second) 
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98 Eclipse GS Turbo Megasquirt 2 - Holset HY35 Turbo - Built motor - P&P Head and Intake - 3" Turbo back - FMIC - Greddy RZ BOV - Walbro 255 - Aeromotive AFPR - 650cc Injectors - Fidanza Flywheel - Zoom clutch - 13" Cobra Front Brakes - AEM WB - Devilsown meth injection - 3.55 Final Drive gear ratio 1981 Chevy Scottsdale 1987 Nissan 300zx - Chump Car 2001 BMW 325i - DD Last edited by SilvrEclipse; 03-31-2008 at 05:15 PM. 
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01-01-2008, 10:57 PM
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Re: Wideband o2 ~ $110
Dude, that is fucking righteoues. A wideband just made it to the top of my summer list.
 Why no display though?
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 Build on hold until I get a good paying job, either in school or once I get out. At that time a full tear down and complete rebuild should be in order. The Purple People Eater will ride again... January 2011 can't come soon enough.
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01-01-2008, 11:07 PM
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Re: Wideband o2 ~ $110
I dont really need it. I will only use it when tuning the car, I dont need to watch it all the time. And it would have uped the cost some to.
You can also program the Vouts 1 and 2 to inputs a NB sigal into the ECU or input the a/f signal to dsmlink and log everything with that.
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98 Eclipse GS Turbo Megasquirt 2 - Holset HY35 Turbo - Built motor - P&P Head and Intake - 3" Turbo back - FMIC - Greddy RZ BOV - Walbro 255 - Aeromotive AFPR - 650cc Injectors - Fidanza Flywheel - Zoom clutch - 13" Cobra Front Brakes - AEM WB - Devilsown meth injection - 3.55 Final Drive gear ratio 1981 Chevy Scottsdale 1987 Nissan 300zx - Chump Car 2001 BMW 325i - DD
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01-01-2008, 11:25 PM
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Re: Wideband o2 ~ $110
Damn, nice job man. Looks way over my head. But still, glad it worked it out for you. Definately a nice addition to the tech articles.
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01-01-2008, 11:51 PM
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Re: Wideband o2 ~ $110
Wow I was looking to buy this too and was waiting until next year... which is now BTW. Didn't I post a link to this too? I rock. Good to hear it works fine. May just get it sooner now.
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01-02-2008, 12:21 AM
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Re: Wideband o2 ~ $110
So how did you get it to work on your computer. I'm guessing it didnt come with someware. So what program did you use on your comp to view it
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01-02-2008, 12:27 AM
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Re: Wideband o2 ~ $110
He has the software on his site.
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98 Eclipse GS Turbo Megasquirt 2 - Holset HY35 Turbo - Built motor - P&P Head and Intake - 3" Turbo back - FMIC - Greddy RZ BOV - Walbro 255 - Aeromotive AFPR - 650cc Injectors - Fidanza Flywheel - Zoom clutch - 13" Cobra Front Brakes - AEM WB - Devilsown meth injection - 3.55 Final Drive gear ratio 1981 Chevy Scottsdale 1987 Nissan 300zx - Chump Car 2001 BMW 325i - DD
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01-02-2008, 12:32 AM
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Re: Wideband o2 ~ $110
awesome. I'm actually considering this now. My brother in law is a wiring genious so I can let him put it together. So is that box/housing also available through the same guy?
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01-02-2008, 12:56 AM
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Re: Wideband o2 ~ $110
No I picked up the box from radioshack and the 9-pin plug
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98 Eclipse GS Turbo Megasquirt 2 - Holset HY35 Turbo - Built motor - P&P Head and Intake - 3" Turbo back - FMIC - Greddy RZ BOV - Walbro 255 - Aeromotive AFPR - 650cc Injectors - Fidanza Flywheel - Zoom clutch - 13" Cobra Front Brakes - AEM WB - Devilsown meth injection - 3.55 Final Drive gear ratio 1981 Chevy Scottsdale 1987 Nissan 300zx - Chump Car 2001 BMW 325i - DD
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01-04-2008, 02:11 AM
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Re: Wideband o2 ~ $110
I was reading through the JAW forum and noticed that you were on there. So I read your post on your problem. So I guess you got it straightened out? What was the deal with that? Sorry for all the questions but I am debating on whether to go this route or not, but all this mess is over my head, lol.
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01-04-2008, 05:08 PM
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Re: Wideband o2 ~ $110
Yea, The problem I had was related to the software. The firmware that you load on your JAW has to match the version of the software you run. I tried using a different version of the software that was not supported by my firmware which through off the readings.
We solved this through email and I never updated the site.
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98 Eclipse GS Turbo Megasquirt 2 - Holset HY35 Turbo - Built motor - P&P Head and Intake - 3" Turbo back - FMIC - Greddy RZ BOV - Walbro 255 - Aeromotive AFPR - 650cc Injectors - Fidanza Flywheel - Zoom clutch - 13" Cobra Front Brakes - AEM WB - Devilsown meth injection - 3.55 Final Drive gear ratio 1981 Chevy Scottsdale 1987 Nissan 300zx - Chump Car 2001 BMW 325i - DD
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01-22-2008, 01:43 AM
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Re: Wideband o2 ~ $110
ok guys first off, i know this thread is almost a month old, but i have been considering this WBOII set up as was wondering if i were to skip the display just like silvr did, could i maybe rigg it up to display on my turbo timer? (apexi "pen")
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01-22-2008, 06:17 AM
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Re: Wideband o2 ~ $110
You could configure the output of the WB to a 0-1v signal which is the same as a NB sensor and then input that signal to your turbo timer. It wouldn't show the AF ratio but it would give the voltage of the signal. So as long as you knew what voltage to shot for you would be fine.
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98 Eclipse GS Turbo Megasquirt 2 - Holset HY35 Turbo - Built motor - P&P Head and Intake - 3" Turbo back - FMIC - Greddy RZ BOV - Walbro 255 - Aeromotive AFPR - 650cc Injectors - Fidanza Flywheel - Zoom clutch - 13" Cobra Front Brakes - AEM WB - Devilsown meth injection - 3.55 Final Drive gear ratio 1981 Chevy Scottsdale 1987 Nissan 300zx - Chump Car 2001 BMW 325i - DD
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01-22-2008, 11:27 PM
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Re: Wideband o2 ~ $110
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01-23-2008, 09:11 AM
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Re: Wideband o2 ~ $110
Im pretty sure your can't. This would be a limitation in the timer itself. The timer only displays voltage from your stock o2 sensor, it doesn't convert anything to an A/F display. Correct me if Im wrong
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98 Eclipse GS Turbo Megasquirt 2 - Holset HY35 Turbo - Built motor - P&P Head and Intake - 3" Turbo back - FMIC - Greddy RZ BOV - Walbro 255 - Aeromotive AFPR - 650cc Injectors - Fidanza Flywheel - Zoom clutch - 13" Cobra Front Brakes - AEM WB - Devilsown meth injection - 3.55 Final Drive gear ratio 1981 Chevy Scottsdale 1987 Nissan 300zx - Chump Car 2001 BMW 325i - DD
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