Turbo kit for '02 Lancer 2.0?

[ILLZ]

A friend of mine has a '02 Lancer 2.0 and is looking for a good turbo kit. He is currently looking into the SharkRacing kit but that seems to be a bit expensive...is there anyplace else that sells a good kit or can he piece together some sort of turbo for cheaper? Thanks guys

[Lil red '03]

Try road race motorsports .com
They have two kits - one intercooled, one not. They go for about 3 grand but you should expect to pay about that for any turbo kit.
Good luck.

Junior

[Kartoon 1]

Tell your friend to try www.visionimports.com. The carry a three stage turbo kit which is the same on as shark racing, but they are a hell of a lot cheaper. The stage 2 kit is only $3100, or you can opt for an intercooled version for $3600. Road race uses the same turbo as RPW which is the company vision carries the turbo for, but the RPW kit has reportedly turned out 100 + HP with the direct bolt on. I'm not bad mouthing road race's kit, but I just feel that vision's kit is a little bit better. Check out the web site for both www.roadracemotorsports.com and vision and check em out and call their tech support for help, but make sure to stay away from shark racing. Their kits are way over priced. :smoka:

[HobieKopek]

Originally posted by Kartoon 1
Tell your friend to try www.visionimports.com. The carry a three stage turbo kit which is the same on as shark racing, but they are a hell of a lot cheaper. The stage 2 kit is only $3100, or you can opt for an intercooled version for $3600. Road race uses the same turbo as RPW which is the company vision carries the turbo for, but the RPW kit has reportedly turned out 100 + HP with the direct bolt on. I'm not bad mouthing road race's kit, but I just feel that vision's kit is a little bit better. Check out the web site for both www.roadracemotorsports.com and vision and check em out and call their tech support for help, but make sure to stay away from shark racing. Their kits are way over priced. :smoka:

Do you know of someone running a straight up RPW kit? I've yet to see one myself though I'd like to. When I get my car back I'll post some pics and info, but it won't help people who want kits very much.

[Kartoon 1]

Hobie, I'm not sure what the pics are supposed to do for me, but yes I do know someone running a straight RPW stage two kit. They don't have any complaints. As I said I'm not bad mouthing RRM. I personally prefer the kit vision carries. The only difference in the two really is 20 hp or so and powder coated piping to the color you like. If your running a RRM turbo fine, but I won't be.

[HobieKopek]

That's outta left field. I think you missed the point of my post. I've never seen a complete RPW kit and the pics weren't for you specifically. The only install I've seen is a hybrid RPW/custom job. It was the 3rd boosted Lancer I'd ever heard of and the first in Jersey I believe. It's based off the kit they later produced, but it does not use all the same parts and was not bought as a complete kit.
I don't think HP difference should even come into play when comparing the two kits though. Once you're FI you can raise the boost or (more importantly) properly tune to make up for inadequacies, but I think the key factor is having a kit that's complete enough to be able to make these changes without investing hundreds or thousands more (i.e. making certain the fuel system can handle the increase and). The RPW kit seems to me like it has future upgrades in mind.

[phatdex]

Wouldnt it be easier to get a Galant 4G63 engine out of the old galants and stick it in? Already low comp, turbo and intercooled. Will fit straight in as far as I know.
It is basically the EVO engine. Can get them for around $1500 in Australia. That is roughly $750 US.
My friend put one in his mirage for $3000 Aus or $1500 US, Thats a lot cheaper than ur turbo kits.
All U have to do is put a bigger turbo on and ur flying.
OR alternatively, for more money put a EVO version of the 4G63 in. But no use in spending the extra money, just get the galant engine.
4G63T people.

[Kartoon 1]

Hobie, I've talked to vision many times to make sure the kit is a complete kit, and they assure me that it is. All the piping, fuel rail and regulator, injectors, and so on are included so they say. Vision claims that the only thing you will need is an intercooler, but they now carry the intercooled kit for 3600. Obviously any company can say they make a complete kit, but until someone gets it you really don't know for sure. If it is a complete kit great, and if not I will humbally accept a "Told you so" from you. I guess in a couple months we will both know the answer.

[HobieKopek]

You missed it again. I'm not trashing the RPW kit. It just doesn't have what I want in it. The kid has bought his kit before they even began selling if I remember correctly. It's just a 1.8 4g93 kit with some extended and altered piping. His kit is a hybrid. JUST his.

As for the swap, no it's not easy at all. It's costly and impractical. I don't exactly have a spare 4g63T with a FWD tranny to look at, but i'm 99.99999% sure it will not drop in. Remember, it's a Mitsubishi not a H&A.

[phatdex]

As i said b4, my friend put the 4G63T engine in his mirage and just kept the existing gearbox. $1500 US.
Didnt take that long, just new engine mounts needed to be made, thats all.
U can get a 4G63T engine here (Australia) for about $700 US.

[HobieKopek]

Simply put: The Lancer is not a Mirage. Give it a shot if you're certain, but expect to spend more than $1,500 US. Unless you can do the majority of the work yourself it's going to be very expensive, and, even if you can, it's going to be quite labor intensive. The Evolution 4g63 would not work though because of it's AWD tranny. It's been rumored that less than a handful of people in the US have pulled this stunt off. I've yet to see evidence of a single one. If you're brave enough to try it and document it I'd really love to have a step by step to show people who constantly ask about this. I just can't emphasis enough that you shouldn't expect it to be a simple swap. Zat eez all!

EDIT: Forgot the other downside. No parts will be ready made to fit your car. Most other tuning you do will have to be custom. Your manifold would probably have to be rebuilt along with downpipe and intercooler piping (it'd be a super waste imo to put in a low boost 4g63t rather than using your 4g94 and turbocharging it for a similar cost).

[phatdex]

A mirage is a hatchback lancer. The engine bay is exactly the same size.

[phatdex]

I just thought, maybe there are some differences with u guys driving on the wrong side of the road, maybe the engine bay is set up a little differently. But here u just get a 4G63 engine as it is the same block size as the 4G93 basically.

[HobieKopek]

Our engine is transversely mounted. Your Lancer is different than our Lancer and your Mirage is different than our Mirage.

http://www.mitsucars.com (The Mirage may not be on there anymore as it's been phased out of the US Market).

[HobieKopek]

Don't mind the short ram, hoses or radiator brackets. That's basically our engine bay.