i don't understand your cars

fortyoz2eric · #1 02-01-2003, 07:06 PM

alright guys, i've had this arguement with my brother for a while. it hasn't been resolved since he throws a temper tantrum everytime i try to reason with him. ya see: he bought a 94ish (i forget the lingo) civic dx with a shitload of miles on it for $4 grand. he then dropped an H22A in it with all those other tiny mods (intake, exhaust, vtec controller...). all that shtuff cost him $8 grand ($12 grand total) and it can only hit 14s, and since the engine is so heavy in a civic it can't handle for shit.
i don't get it. i'm not too big into drag racing but i know you can buy an older camaro for dirt cheap and make it a hell of a lot faster than that for $12 grand. and if you're like me i'm more into autocrossing and drifting, and in that case you can buy an older sports car which would destroy a civic in auto-xing (i like to bring up this ad i saw for an fc RX-7 with 200hp and 60,000 miles for $1,500, and thats RWD if you didn't know). so why buy a civic for a sports car? and i won't accept cheaper insurance rates for an answer.

wheel1856 · #2 02-01-2003, 07:46 PM

tell him to upgrade his suspension and try some corner weighting so he can murder any camaro on any turn

B16EJ1 · #3 02-01-2003, 07:47 PM

It's all in personal taste. Why ask why? Let your brother do what he want's and you do your own thing. If his car is just running 14's then he did something wrong. My bro drives an f body camaro and he digs my car and I dig his. A true enthusiast is in to all cars. Instead of arguing with him try and help him figure out why he's running bad times.

civickiller · #4 02-01-2003, 08:48 PM

true dat b16e, a true enthusiast loves all cars, like me. i have my civic yet i love muscle cars too. as for rx7's i think they suck because of that rotary motor but tahts my opinion, but they are still good cars.

his 14s with the h22a could be other factors like what track he was at, temp, and sea level height. maybe he just doesnt know how to race

RoBoDEATH · #5 02-01-2003, 09:09 PM

there is no better car, it's all in the eye of the beholder (holy shit that was deep)

dirk-diggler · #6 02-01-2003, 09:49 PM

Hey man, Hodas rule, and that's the bottom line, and your brother knows that too!

edman24 · #7 02-01-2003, 10:00 PM

well also you have to understand. we are modding 4 cylinders. not a huge v8. you know why i dont want a muscle car? because most of them dont put out enough power to justify that huge engine. figure our cars get at least 75 hp per liter. thats even the slower ones. and most of your v8's dont get near that. i believe in tuning. not making your engine bigger. thats something all other companies know except for american companies. oh yah and even with that engine i bet your brother could kill a stock f-body around a turn. american cars cant turn worth sh*t.

dirk-diggler · #8 02-01-2003, 10:23 PM

Yeah! you tell'im ED!

CivicSiRacer · #9 02-01-2003, 10:28 PM

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Originally posted by fortyoz2eric
alright guys, i've had this arguement with my brother for a while. it hasn't been resolved since he throws a temper tantrum everytime i try to reason with him. ya see: he bought a 94ish (i forget the lingo) civic dx with a shitload of miles on it for $4 grand. he then dropped an H22A in it with all those other tiny mods (intake, exhaust, vtec controller...). all that shtuff cost him $8 grand ($12 grand total) and it can only hit 14s, and since the engine is so heavy in a civic it can't handle for shit.
i don't get it. i'm not too big into drag racing but i know you can buy an older camaro for dirt cheap and make it a hell of a lot faster than that for $12 grand. and if you're like me i'm more into autocrossing and drifting, and in that case you can buy an older sports car which would destroy a civic in auto-xing (i like to bring up this ad i saw for an fc RX-7 with 200hp and 60,000 miles for $1,500, and thats RWD if you didn't know). so why buy a civic for a sports car? and i won't accept cheaper insurance rates for an answer.

Blah blah trolls are trolls. Since you know so much about autocrossing, then you must know it's not the car it's the driver. I've beaten many high dollar cars, and high horsepower cars in my Civic on STREET TIRES. So don't come here thinking you can impress us with knowledge of autocross cause you won't.

Oh and what did I spend on my car? About $3000 (shocks, coilovers, and tires/wheels). BUt as I said it's not the car it's the driver. Put me in another car and I can promise you I will deliver, which is why I'm also an instructor for our region and asked to help in other regions too.

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so why buy a civic for a sports car? and i won't accept cheaper insurance rates for an answer. [/b]

I love this one. So why buy any car except an FC RX7? I guess they should just close up SCCA and just run RX7 only classes? I know a $500 Fiat X1/9 that will stomp your RX7. He's one of our regional directors. So how do you explain that one Mr. Troll?

kicker1_solo · #10 02-01-2003, 11:18 PM

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Originally posted by dirk-diggler
Hodas rule

Not really

And the reason why I bought my civic is because of it's looks. Someday when I have enough time/money I'm going to get an old nova and have it run 12s for less than $10k including the cost of the car. You're right, hondas can't touch muscle cars for the speed per dollar. I'd love to have a rwd car that's putting out 600hp, I'd be in heaven, but my civic is so comfortable, nice, and handles like a dream.

Melt · #11 02-02-2003, 12:17 AM

Your brothers civic is definitly messed up if he is only running 14's with an h22, there is a guy here in town that has an h22 with like only exhaust in a 93 CX hatch, full gutted interior, and it runs a 12 flat.

fortyoz2eric · #12 02-02-2003, 12:54 AM

well i agree with autocrossing being mostly the driver....but why not buy the best car you can get for your money? i can except that its your personal taste, or you prefer the looks or the smaller engine...

it isn't like i'm trying to prove that the mazda RX-7 is the best car ever made - i just don't get why people choose civics over these other cars

fortyoz2eric · #13 02-02-2003, 01:00 AM

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Originally posted by Melt
Your brothers civic is definitly messed up if he is only running 14's with an h22, there is a guy here in town that has an h22 with like only exhaust in a 93 CX hatch, full gutted interior, and it runs a 12 flat.

i don't know what to tell ya - the car is perfectly stock except for those little things. but by the way he does have the full tokico suspension

kicker1_solo · #14 02-02-2003, 01:25 AM

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Originally posted by fortyoz2eric
why not buy the best car you can get for your money? i can except that its your personal taste, or you prefer the looks

answered your own question on that one

edman24 · #15 02-02-2003, 01:43 AM

sorry not all of us can afford rx-7's. besides that "the best car for the money" is based on what each individual likes. id love an rx-7. i heard someone earlier say they didnt like the rotary engine. i beg to differ. the rotary is a much better design than our engines if you do your homework. and it can withstand a lot more than all our engines can too. anyone want to discuss that??? but of course that again is personal opinion so not trying to start an argument. just want to broaden peoples knowledge on the subject..............

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