d15b2 worth building up or a POS????

Crxce · #1 01-31-2003, 08:38 PM

I got a d15b2 in my car and im thinking about swapping it with a b16, and i know the b16 is way better but if i freshen up my engine now can i pull decent horses out of it or is that engine just not worth it????? thank for your help

1PhatCX · #2 01-31-2003, 08:41 PM

its a good motor for a starter car, i still have my D15B2, 92 or 93 horses its decent and a fun motor for a lil while. u can beat old Jettas with it hehe

but its not really too worth it to try and make it into a high performance engine, if u wanna keep it stock then go ahead and freshen it up and rebuild it... if u have the money, do a swap

tbk49 · #3 01-31-2003, 08:42 PM

you can build up internals and boost quite high, the compression is only 8.9, which is good for turbos heh, plus mpfi of course

EF_LSVtec · #4 01-31-2003, 08:43 PM

Depends on what you're trying to accomplish...If you build the D15b2 right, I'm sure it'll pull good numbers for you, but the only drawback, you're already maxed out at maybe 175 hp (all motor) and the B16 is just getting started.

1PhatCX · #5 01-31-2003, 08:44 PM

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Originally posted by tbk49
you can build up internals and boost quite high, the compression is only 8.9, which is good for turbos heh, plus mpfi of course

again i forgot about the whole mpfi thing... i gotta do that someday to mine hehe

Crxce · #6 01-31-2003, 08:49 PM

thanks for your help guys i think ill just swap it fuck it, starting off at 160 hp sounds alot bbetter than building up to the max of 160 hp
thats just a waist of cash thanks for your help

amy@af · #7 01-31-2003, 09:00 PM

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Originally posted by EF_LSVtec
Depends on what you're trying to accomplish...If you build the D15b2 right, I'm sure it'll pull good numbers for you, but the only drawback, you're already maxed out at maybe 175 hp (all motor) and the B16 is just getting started.

i have to disagree with you. that isn't what the b16 gets to the wheels. a b16 is like 135 to the wheels. dropshop's zc was getting 178 to the wheels at 10 psi (vafc controlled). now he's running hondata and it's at 190whp. the vafc route can be done for $1500 or less

tbk49 · #8 01-31-2003, 09:05 PM

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Originally posted by LadyNRedSi

i have to disagree with you. that isn't what the b16 gets to the wheels. a b16 is like 135 to the wheels. dropshop's zc was getting 178 to the wheels at 10 psi (vafc controlled). now he's running hondata and it's at 190whp. the vafc route can be done for $1500 or less

nniiiiice

haha goddamn, zc's seem to be the perfect turbo application, straight swap and not too expensive :sun:

amy@af · #9 01-31-2003, 09:10 PM

some numbers.....

b16 + tranny $1600
motor mounts $400
total = $2000
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ZC or soch vtec $250-500
ecu $150
wiring harness $150
total = $550-$800
+
turbo = $1500

i'm not hating on the b series. just thought i'd offer a suggestion of another possible route

crxfanatic_88 · #10 02-01-2003, 01:37 AM

I think you could do alot with it. It might take some time and some effort but you can pull it off with the right gear if you know what i mean, almost any car can have potential if you give it some if you know what i mean. I think its worth fixing up, buying the b16 would make it faster but it wuld cost so much money to swap engines.

crxfanatic_88 · #11 02-03-2003, 01:18 PM

You can easily make it into an Si. Get an Si injection, and head, possibly a tranny, and you will be running a couple of tenths faster than the Si's stock, and your car will weigh less. If you do that stuff, you should build on to the motor from there, and it would be pretty fast, but like everyone else is sayign a b16 is a good engine for the car, so if you have the money get the swap. But you can get those parts from a junkyard or somewhere for pretty cheap(Si parts that is).

BLU CIVIC · #12 02-03-2003, 01:25 PM

you can put about 190 to the wheels...cool...can you do it with a sohc zc?? what kind of turbo?? very very intrested in this b/c i need more power out of my 70hp std...it's lonely and the bottom

FourthGenHatch · #13 02-03-2003, 01:40 PM

I was reading something on Honda-Tech about D15B2s. They are actually an amazing engine when you know what you are doing. They have a near perfect r/s ratio. With certain pistons (I think 1G Integra ones or something) it gives it a nice compression ratio and good power boost. With MPFI it should be just as good if not better than a D16A6 if you put those parts inside it.

I was thinking of swapping engines B16A is a great engine but just too much work in my opinion. I like things that bolt right up so when I do a swap I'm going ZC and probably boost it eventually.

BLU CIVIC · #14 02-03-2003, 02:06 PM

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Originally posted by LadyNRedSi

i have to disagree with you. that isn't what the b16 gets to the wheels. a b16 is like 135 to the wheels. dropshop's zc was getting 178 to the wheels at 10 psi (vafc controlled). now he's running hondata and it's at 190whp. the vafc route can be done for $1500 or less

AMI...CAN YOU GIVE ME MORE INFO ON DROPSHOP'S ZC.....SUX WHEN YOU FEEL A BIG POWER LOSS WHEN YOU HAVE A PASSENGER IN THE CAR...

tbk49 · #15 02-03-2003, 02:32 PM

a guy in calgary has a d15 turbo, he beat my friend in his 2001 prelude which dynoed at 173whp by about 2 car lengths and the guy in the prelude runs 15.5's...makes me wonder? im not even joking either cause I saw it

for the non beleivers heres a pic, the guy has either mpfi or its the d15 from the 92-95 civic im not sure which?

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