Saturn sl2 performance

[aliki1027]

Ok I just got a 99 Saturn sl2 for dirt cheap. I took over payements with 6k left on the car. Well I was curious if anyone has decked out a Saturn sl2. And what kind of engine upgrades they have due to them only have 100hp under the hood which blows a big one. Any help would be greatly appricaited.

[RevHappy Cowboy®]

SL2 has 140hp under the hood, the 100 hp version can be found in SL & SL1 actually

[aliki1027]

Well I did some research and it told me that it only had 100hp. Could you please send me the link or where ever you got your information from. But I would still like more power.

[97SaturnSl2]

Ill be glad to set the record straight

1999 Saturn SL2 has 124 horsepower

my source?

www.saturn.com

[Carguy393]

Try saturnspeed.com or xtremeracingconcepts.com they seem to have some of the best prices I have seen. You may also try ebaymotors and go to parts for car and truck. Then search for your model of car.:alien:

[THEDAVIDMAN]

Hey GRASSHOPPER,

You have no idea what your new ride is capable of. The unassuming transverse-4 is easily capable of 225-250 horse power as a street legal, daily driver.

That means that @ approx 2500 lbs give or take a bean, the horse power to weight ratio would rest somewhere around 10lbs to 1hp.

EVER MASH YOUR FOOT DOWN WITH THAT MANY HORSIES TO GO?
Didn't think so.

I strongly recommend preceeding heavy horsepower mods with better ground works. ( strut tower bar, heavier springs, KYB struts, rear sway bar, heavy bearings and spindles up front, HD motor mounts, 16 to 17 inch wheels w-low pro rubbers. A brake upgrade should go "with" the wheel upgrade. (less flex and better gripp in the rubbers transmits more stress to the pads and rotors, shoes and drums).

I did things "power first" and nearly bit more than one gaurd rail for barely braking in time.

Any how. I had no Idea of the potential untill I got started cutting and grinding in the shop. My 1999 SL2 will consistantly do about a 6.5 second 0-60 right now. (very quiet too) Got all of the bolt-ons less the header. (no street legal available for a 1999) Slightly shaved head. 10 to 1 compression. Mild head work with the emphasis on exhaust porting. (low end torque) Remapped fuel work and a mass air sensor.
3-stage air turbulence & mgmt system. -(much quieter intake)My usable power band is between 2750rpm and 6000rpm. Unusual huh?

For an extra kick, I have re-routed cold air from the AC to the intake. It first blows on the intake temp sensor to richen up the mix. Minus compressor drag, it seems I net about an extra 8-10 hp when turned on.
And the added drag on the crank, you guessed it, More torque.

I currently net about 155 to 160 to the wheel (air off).. Clutch being the only thing still stock, is about gone. Any more horsepower and the diff would need to be a limited slip.

Most of your tuners concentrate on top end power only. Ask yourself, How often will you drive your car to redline? Why don't you do it all of the time? NOISE,..... LOTS OF NOISE!

IF YOUR CAR EVER HAD GOOD BOTTOM END TORQUE, IT SHOULD STILL HAVE GOOD BOTTOM END TORQUE AFTER THE MODS ARE DONE.

It's about intake-exhaust "Balance" as much as it is air fuel volume.

Just remember : NOISE DOES NOT ALWAYS EQUAL HORSPOWER!! MORE HORSEPOWER DOES NOT HAVE TO MEAN A LOT MORE NOISE!!


Most of all, Have FUNNNNN!!

Check out WWW.SPSWEBPAGE.COM for parts and info.

Peace-out,

David B. Kish

[email protected]

[2fast4_ur_ass]

OK. Saturn 99 SL2 has 124 HP but only 100 gets to the wheels. But if you want more to get to get to the wheels, you can out in motor mounts.

Here is a list of mods.

intake or cold air intake
header or 92 header(92 is the best to get)
turbo or super charger
motor mounts
drop the car 2 inches or 1.5
tires and rims
body kit
racing seats
inter cooler
wires
cam cover
and more

BTW- check out www.SaturnSpot.com

[leolo007]

I dont get it, how are motor mounts a performance upgrade. Now seriously do you even know what you are talking about, cam covers??? How much horsepower does that give you? How about large yellow stickers, you forgot to mention those. This guy is asking for engine performance upgrades, not where to spend unecessary money.

[Wilson_Shaw]

The stock dog bone engine mounts allow the engine to move around more than stiffer aftermarket ones. The less the engine moves around, more power is able to reach the wheels. The reason the stock engine mounts aren't very stiff is to isolate the engine's vibration from the rest of the vehicle. Therefore, with the aftermarket mounts, you will notice some vibration at the lower rpms.

[sierrap615]

First, get rid of that UGLY civic. the stronger the lower motor mounts are, the less the engine moves around. vibation is wasted energy. so if the engine doesn't shake, it can send more energy to the wheels. but you have to keep the upper mount stock(i don't remember why, but the engine has to shake a little). upgrading the mounts is really only worth it if you already have intake and a cat-back

[leolo007]

Hey, guys thanks for the reply, but there is now way Im getting rid of my civic. (maybe if I can find a fast rwd import that I can afford). The reason I was in this forum was cause a friend of mine was here and he has a '91 sl2 probably one of the coolest saturns Ive seen. He's got just about everything you can possibly do to the car. Except cams, which he removed due to poor idling. But from port & polished heads to higher compression pistons... bad ass, but he still cant beat my civic

Now he wants to go forced induction, crazy guy, with high compression pistons and all. Anyways, there not super high, but the thing is, do any of you know where he can get a turbo manifold for that motor?
thanks

[THEDAVIDMAN]

Yes I do,

Go to www.twistecprducts.com. All the parts you need for the humble 1.9 to give it some BOOOOST!

By the way Homer, if your little red Honda and the Saturn ride you are racing are equally modded, you got left in the dust. We all know that the little 1.6 is Sans torque. Saturn however , the humble 1.9 is all about torque, with .3 liters more than you will never see in the little red civic and not much of a weight diff.

Course, you might be running an integra V-tech block and we just don't know it.

What ever , it's all for shits and giggles anyhow, yahhhh?


Dat's what I am saying,

Peace through herb.

D...........

[THEDAVIDMAN]

Hey brotherman red honda dude,

I would recommend a reduction of compression if you are going to Booost. 8.5 to 1 is just about right for 12-14 pounds. And oh s#!t why dont we throw in ballanced turbo pistons with wider piston-ring spacing for more stability in the cylinder head.

Oh crap, lets coat um with a composite graphite slick stuff to reduce friction. And a balanced crank shaft.

I'm sure you knew all dat.

Hey there's nothing wrong with the red Honda that a wrecking ball can't fix.

Notttt. If I could afford a rice rocket I wouldn't be driving an american hay wagon that's for sure.

Cool ride man. Dig the rear spoiler.


Rock on.

D..............................

[GaLaNt_DOHC_89]

Whats Krackin? I totallly agree about the mounts = power, it just wouldn't be enough to brag about thou, but power is power. Red Civic dude, you haven't seen a Saturn till you have seen my old hybrid 95 SL2 (R.I.P.) . Let's just put it this way, Saturn + Honda parts = a Beautiful Thing.
Also somebody said something about the V-tec block, great guess , (Honda Ed.) the B18 is infact the Integra DOHC V-tec engine. Now weither it is a GSR or Type R, I can't remember.
Just wanted to put my in.

Oh yeah, Somebody wanted some sites:
PARTS AND SUPPLIES:
www.saturnmotorsports.com
www.spswebpage.com
www.extremeracingconcepts.com
INFO AND FORUMS:
www.xtremesaturn.com
www.saturnperformance.com

Good luck!

[leolo007]

Hey thedavidman, I am running an integra motor, to amplify on what galantdohc89 said, and to give some of you a little honda/acura lesson (i know Im in the wrong forum) but anyways. in the US the integra came with three different motors, the b18b 1.8L non-vtec good for 140something hp, I cant remember. the b18c1 gsr motor, vtec 170hp, and the b18c5 type-r 190hp. in japan, they sad the same motors but the gsr and type-r had same code, just b18c. I have the jdm (japan domestic market) gsr motor with 180hp, I believe jdm type-r is 195hp. which I have stock, except for CAI hi flo cat and cat back exh. And you are right torque sucks, at around 127ft/lbs. but still my car weighs around 2100lbs (since I just stripped the interior, (cause Im going to start autocrossing in it) and torque is just about as good as I need it.

As soon as I figure out how to post pics, if anyone wants to tell me (for the sig. it was easier), I will post some pics of my friends saturn because it honestly looks pretty damn badass!!

hey galant dude, explain to me this saturn+honda parts = beatiful thing, you just completely lost me there, I was on limbo for like 28.36 seconds