who is the fastest ,what hondas are really fast ??what models are do u get there 20l

[opel demon]

hi im from south africa i was reading many of your peoples races,i just would like to know which guys are the fastest ,there should be a few and have you guys went against any gt r34 skylines or any nissans??

[Milliardo]

Only a 1991 Nissan Sentra, and he didn't even race. I don't know if there are any Skylines where I am. Possibly a few. Don't know how fast I am though, at least compared to the others here. I'm quite new to this (having modified my car only this December), so I am still learning.

[-The Stig-]

Umm Well here in the good Ol USA... we dont get many Skyline's let alone GT-R's.

I'd be willing to guess there's less than 20 Skylines in the entire United States.

As for who's fastest... it all comes down to who put the most money into their car. Simple as that.

[Self]

Originally posted by RedNeck383
Umm Well here in the good Ol USA... we dont get many Skyline's let alone GT-R's.

I'd be willing to guess there's less than 20 Skylines in the entire United States.

As for who's fastest... it all comes down to who put the most money into their car. Simple as that.

I think there are 42 registered Skylines in the United States. I think that's what it was last I heard, a few months ago.

[KrNxRaCer00]

Red Neck nailed it. it all jus comes down to wut each person decides to put into their car. some people prefer domestic, some prefer imports. overall tho, the overall advantage will goto a domestic car. u can't make up for the loss of displacement. turbo/nos, don't matter, displacement will kill the inline 4's, every day (if both motors are fully built).

[hybridsol]

Originally posted by KrNxRaCer00
Red Neck nailed it. it all jus comes down to wut each person decides to put into their car. some people prefer domestic, some prefer imports. overall tho, the overall advantage will goto a domestic car. u can't make up for the loss of displacement. turbo/nos, don't matter, displacement will kill the inline 4's, every day (if both motors are fully built).

And of course all imports lack displacement.

shure domestic's are fast a long stroke allows the engine to produce power for a longer period of time, and subsequently more torque. There is a drawback to a long stroke though. Because the piston must travel a longer distance, there is a physical limit to how many RPM the engine can achieve. An engine with a large bore and short stroke will produce less overall torque, but has the ability to reach much higher revolutions per minute, and subsequently more horsepower utilizing a lower displacemet. I don't see how you can say (one is better than the other).
totally different engine design, there both amazing in there own way.

To get back on topic I'd love to race an R34 but as redneck said, there aren't many around........
I ran a spec V, (nothing to brag about).
Honestly the most trouble I have around here, is with my friends GSR and his dads NOVA.

[Cyprus106]

haha! I would love to race a Skyline! That bastard would pass me like I was standing still. And then I'd go brag to all my friends how I got stomped by a SKYLINE

lol

[KrNxRaCer00]

hahaha, i got told by delsol. im not sayin that american cars own always, im jus saying that it IS easier to get power from them (atleast cheaper). im a die-hard import lover, but i still give it to the bigger motors in the fact that it is easier to get the power from them. u can't argue w/ that can u? (im sure u can, so i'll be waiting to get told again )

[hybridsol]

Originally posted by KrNxRaCer00
hahaha, i got told by delsol. im not sayin that american cars own always, im jus saying that it IS easier to get power from them (atleast cheaper). im a die-hard import lover, but i still give it to the bigger motors in the fact that it is easier to get the power from them. u can't argue w/ that can u? (im sure u can, so i'll be waiting to get told again )

first off I didin't mean to come off as a jerk, your entitled to your opinion, I still disagree but apolagize for being rude. The CRX we built was much more cost efficent than it would have been to build most domestics. Whether or not its easier to get power out of a domestic rather than an import, all depends upon you knowledge of the car being built. Neither car is easily built up, (its easier for me to build up a Honda motor, meanwhile its easier for redneck to build up a bowtie). I have argued this further in more than a few threads, I can dig them up and send you the links if you want, but I think there's like 20?
PS- I see you have a gsr, b18c1's are highly tunable (I love that motor).

[KrNxRaCer00]

ah, nah man u weren't rude, i was jus sayin i got told. heh, i do see wut ur sayin about it comin down to preference. my idea was jus that overall, because the american cars have been out so much longer (mod's for them atleast), they are usually somewhat cheaper to run quicker times. i'd read the post's if u sent them over, always good to hear other's opinions about things, its how u learn.

-ps. i luv my motor, u gotta like rev'n up to 8k. i jus had to replace my master clutch cylinder and my slave unit. but now it runs pretty clean. i still need to be quicker tho to beat my buddy's type r. . any suggestions would be nice.

[StangMan]

I have to agree with krnxracer, that in the end, the higher displ motor will win. I don't think that anyone can disagree with that statement. If you still want to argue, then take a look at the dragsters, do you see any 1.8L engines. Take a look at most race cars of any type. All things being equal between motors, the more Cubic inches, or liters, will win. That is common sense. Not to say that they always win, because things are not always equal.

[Self]

Agreed with above...See sig for details

[hybridsol]

Originally posted by StangMan
I have to agree with krnxracer, that in the end, the higher displ motor will win. I don't think that anyone can disagree with that statement. If you still want to argue, then take a look at the dragsters, do you see any 1.8L engines. Take a look at most race cars of any type. All things being equal between motors, the more Cubic inches, or liters, will win. That is common sense. Not to say that they always win, because things are not always equal.

I can, I do, I prove it over and over again, you don't seem to understand my point. Ok lets go over displacement first. Displacement is calculated from the BORE (diameter of each cylinder) and the STROKE (distance each piston travels in the cylinder). ok when the BORE (cylinder diameter) is larger than the stroke. This is known as an over square engine via rev happy shorty. An engine with a matching bore and stroke is called a square engine, an engine with a longer stroke than bore size is called under square via torque happy. While the domestic manufacturers have traditionally built engines with lots of torque and a larger displacement US, Japanese manufacturers have been building engines with less torque, but the ability to rev much higher utilizing less displacement OS. This means that japanese cars don't accelerate as quickly right off the line as domestics do, but they are able to accelerate for longer in the same gear (9,000 rpm redline vs. a 5,500 rpm redline for example). There is a drawback to a long stroke as you can see. The piston must travel a longer distance so there is a limit to how many RPM the engine can reach. on the opposite end an engine with a large bore and short stroke will produce less overall torque/displacement, but has the ability to achive much higher revolutions per minute, and more horsepower utilizing a lower displacement. Domestics are starting to build large motor's utilizing OS tech. but everything takes time.
(soon we will all be converting to hydrogen fuel cells anyway)
BTW- KRN I'll try to find some of those threads for you.

[hybridsol]

I'n the end it all comes down to opinion and knowledge of the car at hand, whether it be an import or domestic.

ps- there are many 1.8 liter drag cars that do quite well........:huh:

[Self]

That's all true, very very true. But it's also true that there is no replacement for displacement. NOTHING. NOTHING AT ALL. No matter how much you know about a car, you will not be able to get the same amount of horsepower from a smaller engine as you can from a bigger one! It's true you can get more HP from a smaller displacement using the os technology than you can from that same small engine using the "domestic" technology. BUT you can't get as much hp from the os technology on that small engine as you can using the "domestic" technology on a LARGER engine. It's proven EVERY SINGLE DAY. Turn your tv onto speedvision. Definately don't see any small-displacement top fuel nitro-burners turning 300mph ETs. Show me proof, please. Take for instance the 4000hp Integra that was built a while back. Like I said, 4000hp, BUT it had 4.6 liters of displacement and a HUGE turbo and there wasn't a single Japanese part in the car. Not that country of origin has anything to do with it, it's only the size of the engine that matters here. If an overseas manufacturer produced a big displacement engine I'll argue this point in defense of that too. Back to the point at hand, no replacement for displacement. Big engines can have turbos too, afterall. Multiple turbo's at that! Take the 4993hp QUAD TURBO @ 28lbs. Expected to run low 5s, and they are looking to turn the boost up EVEN MORE! I don't really think this is a debatable point from your side, afterall, don't the pro's know best? Like that other guy said, you don't see any top fuel dragsters running I4s...