Smoking Bans....

[unite@af]

So In Corvallis OR there is a smoking ban that prohibits smoking within 30 feet from any buildings and no smoking in any business. I think its great. Being a non smoker I really enjoy it. Do you think it takes away peoples rights? Let me know...

[Lizard King]

It doesn't take way peoples rights. But it gives people the right to breath good air.

[unite@af]

Im totally with you!!!

[Lizard King]

Cool.

I actually am a smoker. I gave up for 6 months but decided to start again because I like it.

[Porsche]

I totally agree, I hate cigarettes and people who smoke in my school really stink. I think that we shold should eventually get rid of it completely, even though it does bring in big tax dollars.

[enzo@af]

We passed the same ban here in Eugene, but it was overturned a week later. It's hard to say if it takes away people's rights. Personally, I see smoking (like driving) as a priveledge. It's not a right, so there really is no right to take away. However, many people think that smoking is a right of nature...we are all allowed to do whatever we want to our body, as long as it doesn't affect those around us.

I like the ban, I don't like cigarettes

[DaFoo]

I used to smoke, but I haven't for a long time now. I thing people deserve to. They can say the same thing about SUV's and Chocolate. They eat gas and give people heart attacks. If you don't like it, don't go there or sit in the non smoking section. The owner of the business deserves to do what he wants with his place of business. It's shit like this that will allow the government to get in every aspect o my life.

[enzo@af]

The point is that you eating chocolate won't kill me. And, if I can't sit somewhere I would like to, I am being stripped of my liberty. After all, it's their bad habit...I shouldn't have to compensate for them.

[DaFoo]

Chocolate will kill you over time (heart attacks). People die of them every year from living of Jack in the Box. What I am trying to stress is that even though you want to sit there, it is owned by another person who deserves to do whatever he wants with his business. I have never heard of such a thing that the customer can take away the managers rights because he doesn't want to be in HIS store. They tried that here in Texas and it got about a one percent vote. It will never pass down here thank god.

[enzo@af]

No...chocolate may kill you over time...But, comparing the ill effects of chocolate to the deadly toxins in cigarettes is somewhat silly.

As for private establishments, I agree...the owner should have a right to allow smoking. If they don't want to allow non-smokers (taking out a huge portion of their possible market) they can choose to not have a completely smoke-free section. However, the ban is a wonderful things in terms of public places (where it's often banned anyway). I like the ban. I don't see any need for cigarettes anyhow, so I think most of the opposing argument is in defense of their sweet, sweet, nicotine.

[Edited by enzo@af on 03-03-2001 at 05:38 PM]

[Porsche]

You say that us non-smokers should sit in the designated sections? At some Mcdonald's there smoking section is below the non-smokers, it is just as bad and stupidily designed.

[carmaster]

This is all I gotta say

[DaFoo]

That's not my fault they built it wrong, and it is still should be the owners problem, not the governments. Luckily the rest of the world doesn't think like this and ban it everywhere. The point is not that you don't like it, therefore it should be banned forever. It is that it is a delicacy for some, and if they want to enjoy it, they can. You don't need you SUV's, 200mph cars and your guns. They put people's lives in danger. But they are fun to have, and fun (for me!!) to use. When I smoked, I loved it. I still miss it as a stress reliever. They keep stripping away our rights, and pretty soon, you won't be able to do anything. It's like the cops pulling you over. There are so many laws that they can bust you for almost anything just to check your car for drugs. I am tired of this shit and am moving to Holland as soon as possible.

[enzo@af]

Originally posted by DaFoo
The point is not that you don't like it, therefore it should be banned forever. It is that it is a delicacy for some, and if they want to enjoy it, they can

But, often by others enjoying their cancer sticks, I have to enjoy it as well. Sure, I don't have to walk behind them...I could cross the street, or eat at another table, or whatever...but again, I am now having to accomodate them.

[gang$tarr]

in canada there is a smoking ban, but it's just that you can't smoke inside any building, you can walk right outside the door and smoke, but that sucks in the winter