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Old 12-10-2002, 12:00 AM
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Im not sure if its in the right forum but which is better the integra or a perlude? I cant decide which to buy, i want more power but i want looks too so i need some opinions thanks also i want to know what integras are good for and what preludes are good for...
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what generations of teg and ludes are u buying???
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Old 12-10-2002, 12:26 PM
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im planning to get the latest generations 94+ for integ and 97+ for lude
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Old 12-10-2002, 11:50 PM
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srv are never really bad for power, and it looks pretty good

teg with jdm front end conversion are tight.......but u can do alot more than the ludes as in aftermarket
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First hand experience

I currently own an '00 Integra Type R & an '01 Prelude (not Type SH).

ITR (for sale by the way) is more fun when you want to drive spiritedly. However it is pretty bare bones as far as interior goes. It is not as good a daily driver... but, man, what a blast. Light, nimble, sounds great, shifts great... Has LSD which is great for traction. Has direct (not cable) shifter which feels positive.

Prelude has a nice interior and is a good daily driver (engine even has some torque - amazing). However, it feels heavy and sluggish in comparison when it comes to spirited driving. No LSD and cable shifter is not real great in terms of feel.

So, it really depends what you are looking for.
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I've always been a fan of the b18, I seem to be able to push more hp out of them than I can an h22 motor (plus there's the matter of weight difference in the two vehicles the teg is considerably lighter). Ok in comparing the two (lets say a type R integra to a prelude sh) the engines in both motor's are rated at around the same 195hp+ radius. but the type R runs a 1.8 liter with a 10.6:1 CR. and spins past 8400 rpm redline until it hits a fuel cutoff at 8500. The motor makes 108 hp per liter. The Prelude on the other hand runs a 2.2 liter with a CR. of 10.0:1 and tachs out at 7500 rpm's. The difference is torque, the prelude's extra displacement translates into 156 feet of torque at 5250 rpm, while the type R peaks at 130 feet while at 7500 rpm. Ok Honda's are all about the short stroke, most engines are built for torque, rather than horsepower. As a rule, larger bore equals more horsepower, while a longer stroke equals more torque. A long stroke allows the engine to produce power for a longer period of time, and subsequently more torque. There is a drawback to a long stroke though. B/c the piston must travel a longer distance, there is a limit to how many RPM the engine can handle. On the opposite end of the spectrum, an engine with a large bore and short stroke will produce less overall torque, but has the ability to reach much higher revolutions per minute, and subsequently more horsepower. Honda have been building engines with less torque, but the ability to rev much higher. This typically means that honda's don't accelerate as quickly right off the line as their counterparts, but they are able to accelerate for longer in the same gear, The ITR is a perfect example of utilization of that high RPM, the prelude is as well but is lacking in comparison to a b18c5 (also personally I think it could use a 6th gear) Both cars are excellent automotives but my vote goes to the teg, for reasons explained. Hope I helped out a bit.
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the prelude sh is the coolest.:sun:
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i think the lude looks better but i would rather have a gsr teg
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any reason why? i like the looks of a prelude better but the gsr is smaller and better milage but the gsr interior is so much plainer then the prelude - isnt the prelude and the integra basiclly the same car?
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any reason why? i like the looks of a prelude better but the gsr is smaller and better milage but the gsr interior is so much plainer then the prelude - isnt the prelude and the integra basiclly the same car?
ok a gsr integra and a prelude what? also what year? There's a few different models. Are you talking about a 5th generation prelude with a h22a1 vs a 3rd generation Integra with a b18c1?
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94 integra gsr vs a 97 prelude type sh
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used 97 Type SH go for around $10,745 while GSR's in a 94 go for around $6,235. I like the B18 motor better than the H22, but your going to get more power stock out of a h22 that a b18. 170 hp from a gsr, 200 hp from a sh. (read my above post, there are reasons I like b18's better)
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I'd take an Integra over a prelude cuz i like the looks of the integras. but if u want, u can have the best of both of them, buy the one you think looks good and do a motor swap:sun: that always works lol, but i still like my 4G Civic Hatch
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I've always been a fan of the b18, I seem to be able to push more hp out of them than I can an h22 motor (plus there's the matter of weight difference in the two vehicles the teg is considerably lighter). Ok in comparing the two (lets say a type R integra to a prelude sh) the engines in both motor's are rated at around the same 195hp+ radius. but the type R runs a 1.8 liter with a 10.6:1 CR. and spins past 8400 rpm redline until it hits a fuel cutoff at 8500. The motor makes 108 hp per liter. The Prelude on the other hand runs a 2.2 liter with a CR. of 10.0:1 and tachs out at 7500 rpm's. The difference is torque, the prelude's extra displacement translates into 156 feet of torque at 5250 rpm, while the type R peaks at 130 feet while at 7500 rpm. Ok Honda's are all about the short stroke, most engines are built for torque, rather than horsepower. As a rule, larger bore equals more horsepower, while a longer stroke equals more torque. A long stroke allows the engine to produce power for a longer period of time, and subsequently more torque. There is a drawback to a long stroke though. B/c the piston must travel a longer distance, there is a limit to how many RPM the engine can handle. On the opposite end of the spectrum, an engine with a large bore and short stroke will produce less overall torque, but has the ability to reach much higher revolutions per minute, and subsequently more horsepower. Honda have been building engines with less torque, but the ability to rev much higher. This typically means that honda's don't accelerate as quickly right off the line as their counterparts, but they are able to accelerate for longer in the same gear, The ITR is a perfect example of utilization of that high RPM, the prelude is as well but is lacking in comparison to a b18c5 (also personally I think it could use a 6th gear) Both cars are excellent automotives but my vote goes to the teg, for reasons explained. Hope I helped out a bit.
EXACTLY the reason why an s2k can run a 14 second quarter mile That and it's not-too-heavy frame that is, hehe.
Anyways, I vote for the Prelude, love the way they look and you don't see them as often as Integras. Granted most Integras aren't TypeRs or even GSRs, but still, they all look alike
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It is funny to hear the plug for the 2.0L S2000 and then see your tag line "no replacement for displacement", though I do see that you have a Z28 to back that up. Anyway, after driving the ITR for 3 years and now the Prelude, I am finding myself gradually moving toward the rear wheel drive with 6 or 8 cylinders philosophy. Torque is what is needed for 80% of the driving we do (and for good burnouts).
 
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