-
Grand Future Air Dried Fresh Beef Dog Food
Air Dried Dog Food | Fresh Beef

Carnivore Diet for Dogs

Go Back   Automotive Forums Car Chat > Mitsubishi > Eclipse/Talon/Laser > Engine, Transmission and Drivetrain
Register FAQ Community
Engine, Transmission and Drivetrain Discuss Engine, Transmission, Drivetrain, and all other performance modifications here.
Reply Show Printable Version Show Printable Version | Subscription Subscribe to this Thread
 
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 10-19-2007, 01:31 PM
Micjohvan Micjohvan is offline
AF Newbie
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 60
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Send a message via AIM to Micjohvan Send a message via MSN to Micjohvan Send a message via Yahoo to Micjohvan
timing belt woes :(

Ok guys. I have a few topics on here concerning my progress of getting the head off my new 91 Tsi AWD.

Its almost done (the head removal that is) but the timing belt is holding me up. My Haynes manual says jack up the engine a bit with a block of wood and pull the front motor mount. Then it wants me to remove all the pullys and belts and shit off the side of the motor. However I dont have room on the side of the motor to do that.

I called up the only repair place in my small town that will work on DSM's and they said right now to finish the job for me it would be $250 in labor plus the cost of new parts. They said the manual is wrong and that I have to pull the engine up 8-10 inchs to do that and I have to unbolt all mounts???

This is seeming like alot of work to me. I have been told you can unbolt the cam gears and ziptie the belt to them and string it to the hood. I tryed to unbolt the cam gears but they are on there really good. I suppose I could impact wrench them off but how safe is this method. I dont want to screw anything up? Which way is the easiest and safest to get the damn tb off.

If anyone lives in the central ohio area and can spare a day to help me do this I will be forever in your debt.

Please let me know if you have any ideas or pointers on this and thanks.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 10-19-2007, 01:41 PM
SilvrEclipse's Avatar
SilvrEclipse SilvrEclipse is offline
Holset powered 420a
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 4,434
Thanks: 1
Thanked 14 Times in 12 Posts
Send a message via AIM to SilvrEclipse
Re: timing belt woes :(

Why not just cut the belt and pull the head off. I assume your going to put a new one on anyways. Having the head off would give you more room around the motor. Then just set everything to TDC before you put the head back on, install the head and line up the timing then just put the new timing belt on.
__________________
98 Eclipse GS Turbo
Megasquirt 2 - Holset HY35 Turbo - Built motor - P&P Head and Intake - 3" Turbo back - FMIC - Greddy RZ BOV - Walbro 255 - Aeromotive AFPR - 650cc Injectors - Fidanza Flywheel - Zoom clutch - 13" Cobra Front Brakes - AEM WB - Devilsown meth injection - 3.55 Final Drive gear ratio

1981 Chevy Scottsdale
1987 Nissan 300zx - Chump Car
2001 BMW 325i - DD
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 10-19-2007, 02:11 PM
gthompson97's Avatar
gthompson97 gthompson97 is offline
AF Fanatic
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 5,625
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Send a message via AIM to gthompson97 Send a message via MSN to gthompson97
Re: timing belt woes :(

This should help a little.

http://www.vfaq.com/mods/timingbelt-1G.html
__________________
95 Talon TSI AWD

97 Eclipse GST

Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 10-19-2007, 05:27 PM
tfoti tfoti is offline
Testiklees
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 931
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Send a message via AIM to tfoti Send a message via MSN to tfoti
Re: timing belt woes :(

I use the transfer case to hold the engine up but have NEVER gone 8-10 inches. Just enough to keep the engine dropping too far. You have enough room. You have to be creative. Go from the bottom with some things, go from the top with others.
__________________
Tim
1990 Talon AWD

2.3 stroker, 8.8 wiseco, FIC 750's, DSMLink,
PTE SCM5031

Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 10-19-2007, 05:41 PM
NateS's Avatar
NateS NateS is offline
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 1,057
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Send a message via AIM to NateS
Re: timing belt woes :(

I've done 3 timing jobs following the Haines manual. Yes it sucks that theres no room however, I managed to pull it off. Socket wrenches are a HUGE help. Expect cut hands and bruised knuckles.
__________________
95 GSX 5 speed
2.3L stroker bored .020 over
Built head
Bullseye/Borg Warner T04B 57 Trim Turbo
RNR 3" turboback w/ o2 eliminator
255 lph Extreme Motorsports fuel pump
Extreme Motorsports mbc
SAFC
Greddy Type S BOV
FMIC (core 28x10.5x3.5)
FIC 650cc fuel injectors
RK Sport Fuel Pressure Regulator

My Car Domain
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 10-19-2007, 06:16 PM
4g63gst20 4g63gst20 is offline
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 573
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Send a message via MSN to 4g63gst20
Re: timing belt woes :(

that's one of the reasons why i dont have a belt cover. but here's what i did.
jack up the engine a little, then removed the motor mount, and then jack it up some more untill you clear the water pump pulley.
__________________
-MODS-
Autometer Boost,Oil Presure,And Water Temperature Gauges./Geddy Turbo Tmer/Eibach Sportline Springs Matched With Adjustable Iluminas 4 Corners/Konig 18" On Nitto Extreme 555/ACT 2100 PP with Street Disc/Extended Push Rod/Urethane Motor Mounts/XS Power FMIC. 28X10.5X3.5/Greedy Type RS BOV/ evo3 16g Turbo/MBC At 18PSI/Bian Crower 272 cams/SAFC2 With 510cc Injectors/Walbro 190 FP/
1/4 mile=14.3@103MPH
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 10-19-2007, 07:00 PM
Micjohvan Micjohvan is offline
AF Newbie
Thread starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 60
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Send a message via AIM to Micjohvan Send a message via MSN to Micjohvan Send a message via Yahoo to Micjohvan
Re: timing belt woes :(

I will be looking at it more tommarow. Im so close now that this is all thats left to remove the head and its a bit late to throw money to a shop.

How hard is getting all this back togather going to be on me?
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 10-19-2007, 10:50 PM
4g63gst20 4g63gst20 is offline
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 573
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Send a message via MSN to 4g63gst20
Re: timing belt woes :(

Quote:
Originally Posted by Micjohvan
I will be looking at it more tommarow. Im so close now that this is all thats left to remove the head and its a bit late to throw money to a shop.

How hard is getting all this back togather going to be on me?

yeah i learned the hard way, one day i took my head to the shop and i told them to replace my intake and exhaust valves, and they thought i said "bolts", they wanted to charge me 550 for it. so now i just do all the work myself.
__________________
-MODS-
Autometer Boost,Oil Presure,And Water Temperature Gauges./Geddy Turbo Tmer/Eibach Sportline Springs Matched With Adjustable Iluminas 4 Corners/Konig 18" On Nitto Extreme 555/ACT 2100 PP with Street Disc/Extended Push Rod/Urethane Motor Mounts/XS Power FMIC. 28X10.5X3.5/Greedy Type RS BOV/ evo3 16g Turbo/MBC At 18PSI/Bian Crower 272 cams/SAFC2 With 510cc Injectors/Walbro 190 FP/
1/4 mile=14.3@103MPH
Reply With Quote
 
Reply

POST REPLY TO THIS THREAD

Go Back   Automotive Forums Car Chat > Mitsubishi > Eclipse/Talon/Laser > Engine, Transmission and Drivetrain


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:53 AM.

Community Participation Guidelines | How to use your User Control Panel

Powered by: vBulletin | Copyright Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
 
 
no new posts