why imports shouldnt be looked down upon

[kc2thou]

I recently purchased a brand new 2002 Subaru Impreza WRX. While this car is better than most ricers out there in stock trim, it too can be modified to a greater extent; How does a turbo/intercooler upgrade that ups the ante to 320+HP sound to you? not to exciting? Well maybe the fact that it will be under factory warrenty? Anybody can put some boost through their engine, but in most cases these applications arnt covered by the manufacturer and in the event you turn your engine into a 300lb paper weight your pretty much stuck with the bill. And while I havnt even gotton a chance to put this car through the paces ( im still breaking it in ) Let me tell you that the viscous slip diff. makes that AWD grab the pavment very fast, i havnt been able to do a decent burnout it just gets traction too fast, which is the main benifit of AWD. Ok Ok before all you Honda Mo. Company guys start forming a lynch mob, let me tell you i will be the 1st in line to say that all of those cars, ie: Civic's, Integra's, SE-R's, up to Supra's and RX-7's are to be feared in the street racing scene. With the exception of the Supras and the RX-7's you can get a hold of one of those cars for a dollar amount far below what i paid for this Impreza. And the aftermarket parts are too easy to find, and just because these cars start out they're "stock" life with performance specs. that just cant compare with cars like the WRX, or M3's or a domestic musclehead ( I owned a 97' Cobra Supercharged 512.7HP, a lot of vroom vroom ) doesnt mean that they will stay that way, I've seen guys running 500hp Integra's and 400hp Eclipse's! I guess What im trying to say is that anyone who likes cars can get them to go faster, handle better, look sexier, sound louder, what it all comes down to is your gonna pay the $ sometime, whether its when you buy a $30k+ car, or a $20k and under and $10k worth of bolt-ons, we all end up paying for a ride that is in effect a reflection of our personality, our way of expressing ourselfs, so I say to those of you who say a civic (or any other pocket rocket) isnt a "real" sports car, you should try to appreciate the fact that not everyone can afford to buy one, and that you obviously have never cruised in an import with more than $15k invested in it. :sun:

[kris]

How can upgrading a turbo, not void your warranty?

[Sleepy]

Originally posted by kbslacker
How can upgrading a turbo, not void your warranty?

i had the TRD Supercharger on my Tacoma it didnt void the warrently but toyota fucked me on the install price. I was going to do it myself until i found out it voided my warrantly

[Tealcav]

Amen to that my man. Im tired of hearing these guys from older generations sayin "why did you do that to your car its not a sports car" or "that belongs in my chevelle" or some other old muscle car that has been on the cover of hot rod magazines for the last 25 years or more. Hello! are we bored yet?, hell yeah. I mean ill be a fan of the ford mustang till the day I die. But its time for grandpa oldsmobile and grandma ford to step aside and make way for the next breed of muscle cars. Front wheel drive baby! Ok ill admit I dont have a Honda or acura or one of those other imports. I have a 95 Chevy Cavalier, and I love it. its a quick little thing and there are PLENTY of performance bolt ons for it. I do appreciate the hondas and Mazdas but I want t be diffrent and have a domestic car to play with. Hey man those wrx's are tight rides, i love subarus. keep posting threads about your car

[kris]

Originally posted by Sleepy

i had the TRD Supercharger on my Tacoma it didnt void the warrently but toyota fucked me on the install price. I was going to do it myself until i found out it voided my warrantly

But see the keyword to that is TRD Supercharger. That is a dealer item is it not? kc2thou said you could upgrade the turbo, and still not void the warranty. How is that possible? I highly doubt Subaru has a larger turbo as a dealer option.

[Sleepy]

Originally posted by kbslacker


But see the keyword to that is TRD Supercharger. That is a dealer item is it not? kc2thou said you could upgrade the turbo, and still not void the warranty. How is that possible? I highly doubt Subaru has a larger turbo as a dealer option.

i know thats why it didnt void the warranty i was just sayin maybe subaru made a upgrade but i dont know

but i didnt think the subaru tranny could handle that power i rember readin it somewere not sure though anyone else heard this

[kc2thou]

Well subaru hasnt quite yet devoloped a performance line like Toyota's TRD, but they have been kicking butt in the rally champioships, and some of that performance engineering has sneaked its way over here, granted in the U.S. we get weaker cars cause our smog laws are more strict than other countries. Ne ways back to the warrenty thing, when i bought the car there isnt an option to upgrade the turbo from subaru, rather a turbo from the dealership, but it still maintains all the regular warrentys, believe me i asked about it, i wish that i could have gotten the upgrade package, but i couldnt afford it just yet. well to all those out there with rides that arnt the norm ( chevy cavalier, for example) kept on going your own rought, cause as cool as the hondas/acuras and other cars like them are, they are pretty much every where you look, its nice to see someone with a tricked out ride that is not too common, keep it up!

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[Pennzoil GT-R]

is it a ProDrive turbo in order to keep the warranty?


these posts were made a while ago, have you got the upgrade yet?

[Cbass]

I am interested to know this as well.

Anyhoo, my 2 cents.

A Cavalier is not a muscle car. Neither is a Civic. It is not a sports car! It is not a luxury car. You can make it fast, if you want to. You cannot change the fact, however, that it is a front wheel drive economy car.

There is nothing wrong with the Cavalier, and if I owned one, I would modify the suspension for better handling, and give it better brakes too! But it is not a muscle car, and it is not a sports car.

[Moppie]

Originally posted by Cbass
I But it is not a muscle car, and it is not a sports car.

Ok then define a sports car?
Is it an MGB? or a Lotus Espit V8?
Or is it just any car that provides and exciting and involving drive. Regardless of how fast it actual is.
I know Iv driven some cars that would run very fast times round a track, but I would by no means call them sports cars. And Iv driven some very slow cars, that simply becasuse you sat nice and low, the steering was responsive along with the engine would most certianly qualify as a sports car.

[Skypatcorbin]

i have a wrx and let me tell you that any performance part on your car that the dealer sees is gonna void your warentee. making more boost than stock will definatly void it. and prodrive dosent make turbos. if you want to upgrade stuff and still keep the warentee just take whatever you put on it off before you go to the dealer. but if the dealer sees something that "might" cause more strain on the engine your warente will be marked void. and just my 2cents...i had always thought a sports car to be a car designed or based off of a design of a car that was made to participate in a car type sport. eg rally, GT, touring, etc.... but civics, cavilers, are not. they are econmoy cars , granted you may get them to go fast, and handle well but they are designed as ecomomy cars. oh yeah and good job on buying that wrx welcome to the comunity please exuse my grammar

[|Banchi1O5|]

Originally posted by Cbass
I am interested to know this as well.



A Cavalier is not a muscle car. Neither is a Civic. It is not a sports car! It is not a luxury car. You can make it fast, if you want to. You cannot change the fact, however, that it is a front wheel drive economy car.

Absolutey right my man!

Originally posted by Cbass
I am interested to know this as well.

There is nothing wrong with the Cavalier, and if I owned one, I would modify the suspension for better handling, and give it better brakes too! But it is not a muscle car, and it is not a sports car.

But i dont think i would upgrade anything - my friend has one and its a nice car, but its still an economy car

[Pennzoil GT-R]

a sports car IMO is something that is focused to one purpose, to be driven quickly, providing the driver with fun, by being as communicative and nice to drive as possible. speed doesnt matter, but handling and a pure driving experience are

[mrcvette]

I think the reason people don't respect imports is because of the fact that 90% of the owners who modify their cars don't give them any serious performance upgrades. sure they're available, but does anyone actually bolt em on? take tealcav's ride for example, out of that long list of mods, only one of them is performance, new mufflers. not trying to put down your car or anything, just pointing out a fact. these cars aren't muscle or sports cars, but they can (sometimes) be very quick economy cars


btw, Im not an old timer or anything, Im only 15 and this is my opinion of imports

[fatninja19]

500 hp integras? man.. that must be kinda rare... hahahaa