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Old 09-27-2007, 05:32 AM
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hi everyone ,ive had a few requests for tutorials on how i draw so i thought i would give it a go ,please be patient this is my first time lol ,its a 69 camaro and i hope to take you from beggining to end if you have any questions feel free to ask:PS this is how i feel comfortable drawing it may or may not be correct or the best way for you but it works for me ,im just trying to help IF POSSIBLE

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step 1 outline of car:first ill draw the ouline in a hb,sometimes i wont fit it in on the page the first time or i damage the paper in some way with my eraser etc when this happens i have to retrace the original freehand onto a new A3 sheet :



step 2 rim and tyres :here is the rim ,basically the way i draw is to imitate the photo the best i can with reflections & colour etc -this is the best advice i can give to learn how reflections etc work,look at the real thing and copy it .
Im using all prisma color pencils+some gouache ,for this rim i used 20,30,70% greys obviously the higher the number the darker the grade ,to imitate the chrome ive also thrown in some aqua blue ,as i go along i smooth it out with the colorless blender or some white (2 of the best shading tools EVER)
For the tires its a combination of straight black 70% and 30% grey for the tread and gouache (white) for the tread outline ,i did it first in this instance for the purpose of this tute and to show how cool it looks once done,normally gouache should be done last IMO as you will only smudge it and wear it off,back to the tires ill again mimick reflections or colour tones etc ,as best as the reference willl allow if its too hard to see go with the flow lol ,repeat the same process for the rear wheel aswell



step 3: colour on the car: after ive done the wheels and the shadow under the car which is basically a mixture of black,70%grey and 30% grey all blended together with the blender afterwards ,ill then move onto the cars body color,starting with the front fender i generally use the main colour in this case blue ,some white 20%grey and the blender ,again its no secret ill copy the shadows and tones the best i can from the reference pic ,dark where needed ,light where needed etc ill build up slowly with the colour,its not rocket science just alot of practice if you feel like it you can ad in the little details such as badges and stuff such as i have with this one .



[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v664/rexsin/camarotutorial5.jpg[/IMG



here the latest progress : more info next page


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Re: 69 camaro WIP -AND TUTORIAL

wow wnderful man looking forward to the finish product
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Old 09-27-2007, 07:55 AM
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Re: 69 camaro WIP -AND TUTORIAL

NICE! You CAN draw other stuff besides Holdens! Way to go with the American muscle! This is turning out really good.

The tutorial is very helpful too. You're explaining it well.

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Great start on the tutorial. Thanks for sharing a peek into your technique and style.
There is lots of good stuff that I can try with on future toon designs.
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Old 09-27-2007, 08:15 AM
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Re: 69 camaro WIP -AND TUTORIAL

ha ha B -lol your right ive been stuck on holdens for ages ,its hard because drawing holdens this year have been $$$upporting me so i have to be very greatful for that ,but i love drawing other cars aswell lol ,glad you can understand the tutorial ,

blip and dx king -thanks for the encouragemnt i hope it helps peeps ,im happy to share my techniques no point hiding them id rather help out

PS :ID LOVE TO OWN A 69 CAMARO sketchesofb !!!!!!
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Wow, this is really a great tutorial. very amazing work! how do you get your outlines so perfect?

PS : Heres what the alphabet would look like if Q and R were eliminated
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Re: 69 camaro WIP -AND TUTORIAL

this is more WIP than a tutorial...
I mean, me being my usual blunt self, the short version of what you're saying is:
draw what you see.


the only difference is you're describing how you are mixing colours but that is subject specific and well, changes depending on what you're doing.

Nice work by the way.
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Re: 69 camaro WIP -AND TUTORIAL

hi nicecar lots of practice and more practice ,alot of the time i still end up runnning out of room on the page lol, i like to challenge myself from time to time and draw with straight ink and see how i go with my proportions and elipses,obviously if you make an error theres no erasing it out ,that might be something else to try for yourselfs,if you like i can post my latest ink sketch im doing now

drunken monkey-this is an insight into my technique ive shared my mixing technique ,how i gouache on the tyres,the way i get good reflections and what grade colours to use in specific areas eg on the rims ,you may see it as a WIP ,but ive given away quite a few helpful tips and personal insight that beginners wouldnt know about ,like i say its my first time doing this if theres anything you feel i could ad or would like to know please let me know

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Re: 69 camaro WIP -AND TUTORIAL

Don't take it the wrong way; just trying to point out that unless someone is painting the same using the same paint, it won't be much use.
You're kinda showing people what you did; that's not the same as giving a tutorial.
You can't really teach someone to paint.
I say this because when you're trying to copy an image, what you want on your paper is what is there in that image. The trick is being able to mix the correct colours. That in itself requires that you have a good eye for colour and know how to mix to get that colour and it is those two things that can't be taught, especially the latter relies heavily on the former.

So, in my opinion (based on my part-time tutoring at University) when I say:
you can't teach someone to paint,

it is because:
you can't teach people to see
and
you can't teach people to mix if they can't see

Make more sense?

When I did my painting workshops, I could only help by refering to what they were doing. They can't look at my paintings to learn how to do theirs.
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Re: 69 camaro WIP -AND TUTORIAL

i see your point and no offence taken,its actually pencil shading not painting that im doing ,im more hoping to share some of the things i use to define certain features and what colours i use for specific areas ,little things with the goauche for instance to bring out the tread design or the use of grey on the tyres instead of straight black and to leave certain areas white to give more reflection and stuff these are the points im trying to get across,obviously people with more experience and ability will know all these things already ,if i can help just one person with any of this then its cool by me im still learning everyday myself

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Re: 69 camaro WIP -AND TUTORIAL

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the only difference is you're describing how you are mixing colours but that is subject specific and well, changes depending on what you're doing.
This forum is subject specific in that its all automotive related. Using warm/cool greys on the rims/chrome is applicable to all automotive art as well as rexin's explanation of reflections. Sure the style of the rim will be different between a Camaro and a Ferrari, but the concept of color blending remains the same. There are quite a few forum members who use Pencil Colors who will find this very helpful.

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Re: 69 camaro WIP -AND TUTORIAL

You've inspired me to draw a '69 camaro, well at least there is one two houses down from me. They seem very common around here.
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This forum is subject specific in that its all automotive related. Using warm/cool greys on the rims/chrome is applicable to all automotive art as well as rexin's explanation of reflections. Sure the style of the rim will be different between a Camaro and a Ferrari, but the concept of color blending remains the same. There are quite a few forum members who use Pencil Colors who will find this very helpful.

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my other point is, when referencing a phtoto, what you do is determined by the photo.
As the original poster more or less said, he is copying the image.
He's telling us exactly what he's doing but that isn't the same as giving a tutorial. I mean, yes he has shown us how he did these wheels but ultimately, he's done what's in the photo and beyond the way he got his colours and how he mixes them, there's not a lot a viewer can apply to their drawing because:
light will be different
shapes will be different
surroundings and hence reflections will be different, car will be different and hence differenty colours will be present.
At the end of the day, whether or not it's a car, when you're working from a source image, there's not a lot a bystander can learn by watching.
The opposite is also true, drawing is drawing and everything you learn from drawing can be used to help you draw cars.

Thing is, I'm pretty sure a lot of us can do this by eye. That is what makes showing some people what they should be doing so difficult.
I for one can't quite comprehend how, when something is right in front of you, some people can't tell when what they've drawn is well, for lack of a better term, wrong.

Of course, it could just be that I am crap tutor.
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it helped me a bit, i never thought of using grey to shade a color, i just have been using black and making my own grey, then i saw thats what you did and i happened to have a 20% and 50% grey and i tried it in the ferrari i just did, expecially for the white part thats all just the grey its alot smoother, so if its not the color mixing that you can teach its techniques
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I have to also say, colour mixing has always been something natural to me. It's probably the single most important natural skill I have that helps me paint. Probably the second most important skill I have is a good eye for tone and I have to say, it surprises me when you say you never thought of using grey before.

I should say though, I am painter and don't use colour pencils much so what I say could be down to me not knowing exactly the qualities and limitations of the medium that you are using.
incidentally has anyone here ever had a proper "lesson" regarding colours and tones? Come to think of it, is anyone here art school trained (or similar) or are you all , and please excuse the phrase, "hobbyists"?
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