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Buying a turbo...need advice
I found a Turbonetics T62-1 turbo for sale. The guy says it has minor side to side shaft play but, no in and out. He also said it has never smoked. I am getting the guy to measure the side to side play so I'll post that up later. The turbo will fit the stock manifold which is what I was looking for. The turbo is also both oil and water cooled. Anyone with input who has ran this or a very similiar turbo would be very appreciated. Also how much would you pay for this turbo.
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i know this isnt what you wanted, but the evo3 turbo is a nice pick. Its a quick spool, nice gains, and im 99.9% positive it will fit on the stock manifold. Its not the turbo you are talking about, but its a nice choice. Runs for 6-7 hundred im pretty sure..... slowboyracing.com has it if you are interested.....
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97' Eclipse RS 5 Speed 420A Under The Hood: Bomz UDP, Custom CAI, NGK Plugs, Mopar Wires Interior: Blue Glow Dash Guages & HVAC Controls, Neon Accents, Custom Dash Work\Paint, Alpine Type-R/JL Audio System, Custom Trunk Layout *GOAL* - Prove Him Wrong Quote: Originally Posted by UnderEstimate Me I doubt bolt-ons will get you to 160hp on the 420a. Unless you have some dyno sheets Im calling bs. |
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Re: Buying a turbo...need advice
Yes, an E16g will fit on the stock manifold and they are like $580 or some shit. There should be SOME side to side, but not much. There is supposed to be so the oil can get in there and lubricate shit. I personally dont like turbonetics turbos and not for any particular reason, except that its water cooled (which I think is redundant as hell) and because I thought they all needed a T3 flange. Cost entirely depends upon over all condition, how much they were new, and how bad you want it. |
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Re: Buying a turbo...need advice
Isn't turbonetics the guys who do those cheap turbo kits for cars?
If you look at it and all seems good, I wouldn't pay more than $600-$700 for that turbo. If it's what i think it is and is based on the GT35R, than you can always pick up a similar PTE turbo with the stock mitsu housing for around 1k new.
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Re: Buying a turbo...need advice
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97' Eclipse RS 5 Speed 420A Under The Hood: Bomz UDP, Custom CAI, NGK Plugs, Mopar Wires Interior: Blue Glow Dash Guages & HVAC Controls, Neon Accents, Custom Dash Work\Paint, Alpine Type-R/JL Audio System, Custom Trunk Layout *GOAL* - Prove Him Wrong Quote: Originally Posted by UnderEstimate Me I doubt bolt-ons will get you to 160hp on the 420a. Unless you have some dyno sheets Im calling bs. |
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Re: Buying a turbo...need advice
I would go for the evo 16g but I just had a forged/bored/stroked motor built and I'm looking to utilize a little more than a 16g's powers worth. Spool up time shouldn't be too horrible with help from the cams/stroker and what not. The guy is taking offers starting at $350. I sent him and email asking about it and this is what I got back:
"The turbo can hadle boost fine the reason why it has small shaft play is becaseu the o-ring clip on the hot side compressor wheel is worn a bit,( not expensive to fix, turbo netics told me 110 total with shipping to fix." I'm going to call a turbo shop I know tommarow and ask them how much they would want to repair this particular problem. BTW he said it will bolt right up to any stock dsm manifold. He even has the gasket to go with it if needed.
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Re: Buying a turbo...need advice
I wouldnt fuck around with it dude, not if theres an excuse for the shaft play. Turbonetics turbos are not exactly cheap IIRC so the fact that he is selling it for a lot less than new (turbos generally seem to be like 2/3 to 3/4 of new price from what I have seen) and that he knows theres too much shaft play puts the turbo out of the question in my mind. That plus the whole water cooled part and how much I doubt that its really a mitsu flange. I would just save a bit more and get a PTE or a FP Red or something. Hell, I think PTE makes a bolt on version of the 35R, with your stroker thats thats what I would do.
Just checked, thats a $1700 turbo from the manufacturer. If hes really selling it for about a fifth off its shelf value its gotta be blown. I'm not much of a fan of rebuilding turbos, if you are then go for it, but I would for sure pass. |
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Re: Buying a turbo...need advice
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Re: Buying a turbo...need advice
So if you want a bolt on turbo just go to extremepsi.com and get the Bullseye turbos. Bolt on to mitsu exhaust manifold, internally gated, and rated up to 600hp. Also I think they are like $700 which is 200 more then big 16G BUT more potential. Lag shouldnt be bad since you have build motor with support mods. Thats what I would do. Or get 20G
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Re: Buying a turbo...need advice
I tried calling turbonetics about repairing the part and they were dicks. The guy im trying to get it from is being shady. The whole deal just isn't feeling right so, I'm going to look around some more. Thanks guys.
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Re: Buying a turbo...need advice
I found this turbo by bullseye that fits my current goals pretty well. I want an internal wastegate but, would I need an install kit? The turbo I have now is both oil and water cooled so all the lines are already ran. Couldn't I just straight swap the turbo out for the new one?
http://www.extremepsi.com/store/cust...cat=961&page=1
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95 GSX 5 speed 2.3L stroker bored .020 over Built head Bullseye/Borg Warner T04B 57 Trim Turbo RNR 3" turboback w/ o2 eliminator 255 lph Extreme Motorsports fuel pump Extreme Motorsports mbc SAFC Greddy Type S BOV FMIC (core 28x10.5x3.5) FIC 650cc fuel injectors RK Sport Fuel Pressure Regulator My Car Domain |
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Re: Buying a turbo...need advice
i'm also confused on which turbo to get. I was looking at Force Performance's 18g turbo ( http://store.forcedperformance.net/m...Code=DSM-Turbo ) it seems like a nice deal. With the Evo 3 i got right now, it isnt bad...but i want more top end!! im wondering if the force performance 18g is more like the evo 3 or does the 18g give out more at the top end??
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Re: Buying a turbo...need advice
As I have heard it put, 18g's: power of an Evo III 16g, lag of a 20g. I think if you are wanting more top end, I would think some more aggressive cams would help you out there plus give you a cool sounding idle
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Re: Buying a turbo...need advice
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To answer your questions yes. It says that the turbo is a direct bolt on. I would advise buying new oil feed lines if you are running stockers. But other than that it should work like gravy. And I have to say that, that is definately a nice choice.
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Re: Buying a turbo...need advice
FP Red FTW!!! IMO
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