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Old 08-14-2007, 09:22 PM
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240 plans??

wuts up nissan guys. i got a 96 integra ls turboed with about 250whp. i understand how turboes work and i pieced together my own kit and also installed it myself. anyway, i was lookin into buying a cheap s13 to put an sr20det in. the thing is, i want a low 12 sec car. i was thinking about getting the peakboost topmount manifold with a t3/t4 turbo fmic injectors and all the necessities. but if i did that i would have no funds for suspension and lsd, which would make it a straight line car which i dont want. i pretty much want a 350whp 240 that can handle and drift really well. my question is what turbo with the t25 housing can put me at or above 350whp...gt28rs...? gt2871?...thanks for the help guys
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Old 08-15-2007, 12:51 AM
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Re: 240 plans??

I think the t25's would be blowing pretty much hot air at around that much hp. They wouldnt be anywhere near efficient anymore. I'd get a t3 turbo, that way you would be closer if not past your power goals; easier.
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Old 08-15-2007, 01:43 AM
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Re: 240 plans??

buy the biggest u can effort
Get a head gasket, 850 cc inject, rocker arm stopper, stage 2 cams 275+ lift and springs, cam gears, FM intercooler, Stand alone ECU, fuel press regulator, new water pump, thermostat, Z32 maf (unless u run on density), new head studs (don't reuse the old ones!!!) Boost controller, Short ram manifold ie Greaddy, oil catch can, NO BOV! clutch, and finally LSD and slicks!

there u go, if i forgot something someone here will help me out!
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Re: 240 plans??

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buy the biggest u can effort
Get a head gasket, 850 cc inject, rocker arm stopper, stage 2 cams 275+ lift and springs, cam gears, FM intercooler, Stand alone ECU, fuel press regulator, new water pump, thermostat, Z32 maf (unless u run on density), new head studs (don't reuse the old ones!!!) Boost controller, Short ram manifold ie Greaddy, oil catch can, NO BOV! clutch, and finally LSD and slicks!

there u go, if i forgot something someone here will help me out!
you got most of this shit wrong. don't worry tho.

there is no 275+ cams readily available and the 272 will do fine
cam gears are for hondas
stand alone isn't needed, decent rom tune will keep this within budget.
Greddy manifold isn't needed, very little gains vs cost.
No BOV? hope you hate your turbo.
Drifting on slicks - yeah thats exactly what he asked for.

T25 housing turbos that are 300+HP are GT2871R or GT2540r with only about 14psi. stock T25 turbo will never reach 300HP so I dunno what Matt is referring to (stock T25 turbo will blow hot air after 16-18PSI and yes its pretty much useless, but thats not what you asked)
Power vs Lag will be an issue when you start to drift, and getting a car that makes 400+HP but spools at 4500RPM vs 280HP car that spools at 2700 you'll understand why "get the biggest turbo Y0!!!!" mentality is a retarded way of thinking by someone who's got no idea.

As far as drifting - stop being a fanboy. no need to get a JDM Tyte SR Y0!
KAs drift fine, you'll soon realize that there is a lot of money in suspension and tires that will make a difference before you'll need 300+ hp.

But do what you want. Its your car.
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Old 08-15-2007, 02:33 PM
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Re: 240 plans??

well thanks but no thanks with the whole ka idea. i want an sr20det blacktop and all i want to no is what is the most powerful t25 housing turbo...i dont feel like changing the manifold so i can run a t3/t4 and wait for boost at 5grand. my integra has a t3/t4 57 trim 63a/r and thats full boost at 4500...im looking to have a fast 12sec car that can handle/ drift really well, so im gonna need better boost response...but i dont want an old pos ka motor
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Re: 240 plans??

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T25 housing turbos that are 300+HP are GT2871R or GT2540r with only about 14psi. stock T25 turbo will never reach 300HP so I dunno what Matt is referring to (stock T25 turbo will blow hot air after 16-18PSI and yes its pretty much useless, but thats not what you asked)
Didnt notice the "GT2871R" he posted, just saw t25 bleh reading owns me
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...im looking to have a fast 12sec car that can handle/ drift really well
good luck
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good luck
you sound like your implying that a 12 sec drift car is hard to build..? did you ever hear of d1? most of those cars are faster than 12s. thanks for nothing
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Old 08-17-2007, 08:59 PM
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Re: 240 plans??

YES, i've heard of d1. My best friend friend owns 2 d1 cars (signal auto twins s13, the copper colored ones) and another friend owns the blue/aqua signal auto s13.5. I believe I posted pics of them, they are original signal auto not replicas. Yes I've driven all 3 of them. They run mid 13 to high 13's EVEN with the signal auto drivers driving. Not saying its impossible to hit 12's; but I'll say it'll be difficult. Their suspension very much tuned for drifting, driving these cars daily isn't fun. Didn't mean to be an ass, my appologies if I seemd that way

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Re: 240 plans??

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you sound like your implying that a 12 sec drift car is hard to build..? did you ever hear of d1? most of those cars are faster than 12s. thanks for nothing
hate to say this, but this is kinda a retarded arguement. A drift car is meant to handle (for the most part) a drag car is meant to squat. the suspension geometry is totally different on the two. I would probably say there is only 3 maybe 4 D1/FD cars that can break 12's easily, and thats only because of there sheer power (Sam's viper, Rhys's GTO, and maybe the mustang) (for some reason the mustangs drivers name eludes me)(then again it is 5am in the morn...lol)...

however in the end, I've also seen a stock SR w/ T25 (upped boost) with the car having a drag suspension run 12's....so power really has nothing to do with it.

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Re: 240 plans??

gt2871 ftw! i would have used that or a stock t28 (because they're cheap) on my sr. would be ok for your power goals. i agree theres no real need for an aftermarket computer but it would be nice... the only reason i would tell you not to use an SR is passing inspection....
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Re: 240 plans??

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you got most of this shit wrong. don't worry tho.

there is no 275+ cams readily available and the 272 will do fine
cam gears are for hondas
stand alone isn't needed, decent rom tune will keep this within budget.
Greddy manifold isn't needed, very little gains vs cost.
No BOV? hope you hate your turbo.
Drifting on slicks - yeah thats exactly what he asked for.
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yeah tnxs for the heads up about the 272 cams

cam gears are needed for tunning the cams bro...

ROM tuning is ok but it sucks bcus its not as user friendly as a SAECU.

U DON"T NEED BOV! i never had one and took it out when i tuned the car. (turbos DON"T spool backward <-- we can argue this forever!)

I do Grip not Drift so the tier reference was inappropriate for a Drifter (i hate drifting)

again tnxs for the head up bro, i don't want to pass on bad info!
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Old 09-09-2007, 04:33 PM
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Re: 240 plans??

ok first of all i no you can have a low 12 sec drift car bc my friends has a t28 sr20 w about 290whpish and he runs loe 13's..other drift cars ive seen have gt35 turbos which are making around 500 hp..now if your gonna tell me that a 500hp drift car wont rum 12's your retarted, also suspension works one way. if you have a drag suspension and you try to drift, well its not gonna work. if you have a drift suspension you can still drag because you can drag on any suspension. ive seen stock suspension dsm's run 11's...so in conclusion, wut turbo is efficent up to 400whp, but will get me around 380 easily. keep in mind that is has to be a t25 housing, i dont need a list of parts to buy, i no wut goes with upgrading turbos. sorry for souing like a dick, but everybody just got off topic
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Re: 240 plans??

the T04E is still gonna take some rpm to spool but would do the job you're looking at, take a look at the turbonetics gt-k 350 too, you can get a mani for around $100 so if you really want to make it fast I would just go a little bigger and the higher rpm boost shouldn't really be a problem since you're probably not gonna be drifting at 2500rpm anyways
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Re: 240 plans??

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well thanks but no thanks with the whole ka idea. i want an sr20det blacktop and all i want to no is what is the most powerful t25 housing turbo...i dont feel like changing the manifold so i can run a t3/t4 and wait for boost at 5grand. my integra has a t3/t4 57 trim 63a/r and thats full boost at 4500...im looking to have a fast 12sec car that can handle/ drift really well, so im gonna need better boost response...but i dont want an old pos ka motor
if you want me to put in more input, just ask.

for now all im gonna do is call this kid a retarted super street fanboi for saying the KA is a pos. news flash idiot: the SR is just as old and POS. go back to your integra. you offer nothing to the 240 community.
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