Cobra mustang goes down!!!

cavaliercrazy · #1 07-09-2007, 01:00 AM

HAHAHA Hell yeah! It's been a while since I've had a race worth mentioning.

I will cut out the crap and get straight to the race.

I drive an 04 Cavalier and I was cruising around behind this nice Red 1998ish(not sure of the year, but I know the body style) Cobra Mustang. I was waiting for a good spot to race him. I figured he would punch it as we were making a left onto this uphill straightaway from a red light. I wanted to get beside him and go from a roll, but before I could catch up I hear him floor it. I was already 2 or 3 cars back ,but I figured I could run him down. I'm already in gear so I roll on the throttle to control wheelspin and then mash it in second gear. I'm cathing u[ fast when I shift into 3rd! By the time I hit about 70 I am right beside him. He looks over with a look of disbelief (

)as I pass him...lol ahhh SATIFACTION!!! lol I cut it off at the end of third gear. I figured that was far enough.
So we end up beside each other at the next red light and the kid driving was completely surprised and asked me what all I had done. Actually I think he said "What the hell do you have done to that thing!?!?" lol I told him and he said "it's freakin fast! He was very nice about it. He was more impressed than anything. I told him he had a nice looking mustang and then went our seperate ways...

I kinda thought his car would be faster, but those were the slower years for the mustangs and I know he wasn't supercharged. I'm not sure what the difference is between the cobra's and the GT's are for those years...
1997-1998 I'll find out what year exactly next time I see him around.

Whatddya think?

KamilMk · #2 07-09-2007, 06:29 PM

I call

pimp349 · #3 07-09-2007, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by KiillaKam

I call

Im not a fan of the 'stang, but he should've destroyed you, IMHO.

fatkat89 · #4 07-09-2007, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by pimp349

Im not a fan of the 'stang, but he should've destroyed you, IMHO.

sounds like it went too far in your favor.... i call bs on this ... but i'd believe if you said he kicked your ass which is probably wat really happened unless he had engine problems ...
my ten year old brother can drive a mustang cobra and evn beat dale earnhardt(i think that the correct spelling) in a cavalier

-The Stig- · #5 07-09-2007, 08:46 PM

You guys are forgetting his cavalier has been turbocharged.

Which changes things when it comes to power to weight ratios.

fatkat89 · #6 07-09-2007, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by -The Stig-

You guys are forgetting his cavalier has been turbocharged.

Which changes things when it comes to power to weight ratios.

he should give us horse power and torque figures. the turbocharged part makes it more believable however i dont believe how effortless he made it seem

CassiesMan · #7 07-09-2007, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by fatkat89

he should give us horse power and torque figures. the turbocharged part makes it more believable however i dont believe how effortless he made it seem

Just like how you effortlessly held with or beat a bunch of low thirteen second cars in what is most likely a low fifteen second car?

cavaliercrazy · #8 07-09-2007, 09:30 PM

hehe, I knew everyone was going to call bs...lol I live in Pa near pittsburgh if anyone wants to run. I race at PRP sometimes if anyone's in the area.

I've only been to the track once with the turbo in, but I managed a 13.9@100mph with a headwind and at a track that is way above sea level. Plus it was hot out that day. My buddy has an 1998 6 speed LS1 Camaro. And he only pulls a car or two on the highway from 65-105.

Next time I"ll get it on Video for all you nonbelievers. I'm not talking about a supercharged Cobra here... You guys are giving mustang too much credit IMHO...I walked away from a newer style 99-04 Gt on the highway too.

Oh yeah... and I turned up the boost a pound or two since I was at the track.

cavaliercrazy · #9 07-09-2007, 09:32 PM

everyone sure is drinking alot of Haterade today...

KamilMk · #10 07-09-2007, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by cavaliercrazy

everyone sure is drinking alot of Haterade today...

I'm not hating... I just called BS because knowing the single fact that your Cavy is turbo'ed, doesn't give me enough solid evidence that you could've beaten him, especially when you said that he had a 2 car jump on you, and you cought up...

Justify yourself, and lets see some numbers...

pimp349 · #11 07-09-2007, 10:06 PM

I thought it was the last cobra (03-04, iirc). You say it was the one before it so I guess its more believable, but still...a little far fetched I'd say.

Edit: Just did some research on the #'s:

04 Cavalier: Engine horsepower 140-hp @ 5,600 rpm
Engine torque 150 lbs.-ft. @ 4,000 rpm
Curb weight 2,749 lbs

98.5 Cobra: Engine horsepower 305-hp @ 5,800RPM
Engine torque 300 lb.-ft. @ 4,800RPM
Curb weight 3,446 lbs.

Guess its possible...

cavaliercrazy · #12 07-09-2007, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by KiillaKam

I'm not hating... I just called BS because knowing the single fact that your Cavy is turbo'ed, doesn't give me enough solid evidence that you could've beaten him, especially when you said that he had a 2 car jump on you, and you cought up...

Justify yourself, and lets see some numbers...

it's cool. I would call bs too if someone said a cavalier beat a cobra stang.

I don't have any dyno numbers, but the guy I bought this turbo from made about 200hp at 6psi on an Ecotec. So I'm hoping I'm around 225 horsepower at the wheels right now. Like I said I'll bring the video camera next time I go to the track or something.

-Jayson- · #13 07-10-2007, 12:14 AM

i believe it.
And dont compare your buddies LS1, 2-3 cars in the quarter mile running 13's is the difference between 13.0 and 13.9

fatkat89 · #14 07-10-2007, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by CassiesMan

Just like how you effortlessly held with or beat a bunch of low thirteen second cars in what is most likely a low fifteen second car?

go back and check my thread again and get your facts straight because i said i got destroyed by the porsche ,
i beat the mustang in traffic at highway speed ,
i beat the 300zx because of street traffic,
and i beat the lancer by feet because he mis shifted.
the only tru kill that i said i had was against the "ricer" civic.
think before you post smart guy.

AWP9521 · #15 07-10-2007, 01:29 AM

Punching in some numbers in this HP calculator on this page, and going by the time and speed cavaliercrazy has posted earlier, based on a vehicle weight (with driver) of say 2929 pounds (Going by the curb weight stated on pimp349's post and estimating 180 pounds for the driver just as a ballpark number) the 1/4 mile trap speed (100 MPH) figures out that he's pushing 229 whp / 270 HP at the crank, and based on the 1/4 mile ET (13.9) it figures he's pushing 216 whp / 254 HP at the crank, so lets say he's averaging 222.5 whp and about 262 HP at the crank, running the car on a hot day at 1180 feet above sea level at PRP.

Plus he added more boost since then so even those numbers are no longer valid and it's anybody's guess what the HP numbers are now without another time slip or a dyno run.

Consequentially, I would believe he gave the Cobra a good run for the money and most likely did beat him going by those numbers, especially if the cobra was stone stock and the driver was heavier than 180 pounds.

Admitedly at first read, one would think a stock car to those not knowing it was turbocharged (including me) would think that and call BS, but after the fact being known it is turboed and taking the time to do a little research with the numbers (Except the actual true vehicle weight with the driver) that are given, indeed one could be led to believe what happened actually did happen.

So I'm gonna say, good kill dude!

And sorry for the long winded post

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