Supercharger..................................???

[yhandor]

I was browsing CarDomain, and I saw a z24 with a supercharger. it's basically just throw it in, get a bigger belt and that's it for one of those, much easier than turbo, but where can you buy one for a 97 z24? I can't find it, I'm thinking about one.

[Ronnie_1981]

#1 they don't make one for your car, alot of stuff has to be customised to put it on and you will need HP Tuners or equivelant tuning software.
#2 it is not as easy and throw it on and you done.
#3 If you do want one, you need to look for one for a 2000 and up Z-24 Manual.
#4 GM sales them and a couple more companies but they are few. Best bet goto GM.
#5 This will cost you 2 times what a good turbo setup will
#6 A turbo is better hands down.

Good luck either way you go. If you are truely interested I will find the companies who sale them other then GM.

[jakegday]

make up your mind, which is it??

#1 they dont make them, or
#4 they do make them???

[Lefix]

Oh god, they dont make one for a 97 but they make super chargers for 2000+ and if he wants to buy a supercharger and put it in his car, he has to buy one that was made for a 2000+ z24 manual and do ALOT of custom work to make it fit and working, a turbo would be SOOOO much easier to install then a supercharger in his situation... and a turbo is better then a supercharger in the long run...

[JaysZ24]

actally a supercharger is alot easier to put on and is more reliable than a turbo

[Ronnie_1981]

Perhaps you missed #3 Jakegday

#3 If you do want one, you need to look for one for a 2000 and up Z-24 Manual.

[Lefix]

Yeah, because the supercharger is not for a 97 z24, he has to modify the 2000+ z24 supercharger to work with his 97 z24...

[millrtime]

word. i would also go with a supercharger over a turbo. easier to install, easier to maintain, and easier on the engine. that and i just personally love the whine..... it should fit any 2.4 twin cam, they are the same engine. i dont see any need to fabricate anything, i could be wrong, i dunno...and it would not be harder to install than a turbo, not by a long shot. u wouldnt have to worry about nearly as many vaccuum lines, oil lines, blah blah blah... go with the supercharger, even IF it may take some work, it would still be worth it.

[Ronnie_1981]

I am not trying to start a fight or an argument here by no means. But why does everyone thing a supercharger is so much easier to maintain and more reliable then a turbo? I have been around vehicles and working on them for almost 18 years now. And in my time i have seen just as many superchargers cause problems as turbos. The only diffrence is, is with a turbo you should change your oil more often.

Also I don't remember what all has to be done, but I used to have the write up on how to mount the 2000+ GM s/c onto the 96-99 2.4. I will try to find that info for everyone again when i get home tonight.

[DeadBlade89]

Straight off the GM Direct Parts website...


DESCRIPTION: 2.4L Twin Cam Supercharger

(Cavalier, Sunfire, Grand Am, Alero)

Add up to 50 HP and 40 lb-ft. of torque! Designed for 2000-2002 GM vehicles equipped with the 2.4 liter twin cam engine (engine code RPO LD9). Kit includes all mounting brackets, air ducts, adapters, Gen II MAP sensor and spark plugs. Can be installed with normal hand tools. Includes new serpentine drive belt.

[OverAllComa]

1 - Doesn't need to be a manual
2 - "Major" mods needed: Have a metal shop fab up plate to block off your EGR, get the computer adjusted approrpiately. That's the only big difference between the 96-99 and 2000+ Twin Cam motors, the emissions are so low that they didn't need an EGR valve to meet emissions anymore (On that note, random trivia!!!! - The 2.4 Twin Cam is a SLEV, Super-Low Emissions Vehicle. It wasn't that far off from a ULEV, ultra-low emissions vehicle)
3 - Superchargers are more reliable and more consistent across the RPM range, turbos generally have higher output capabilities.

You're not going to have to modify much, but a good rebuild would be smart. And the Supercharger is an E45 Eaton-Type. Not too big, but a good solid size. If you go for a rebuild, then you'd probably be okay with a smaller pulley as well. This will require a flash to the computer, GM techs can do it. Just be sure to break the motor in properly.

[Schister66]

Originally Posted by Ronnie_1981

#2 it is not as easy and throw it on and you done.

#5 This will cost you 2 times what a good turbo setup will
#6 A turbo is better hands down.

**Hi five**

you hit all of the good points and saved me time

[OverAllComa]

Originally Posted by Schister66

**Hi five**

you hit all of the good points and saved me time

Sheesh...you kids make it sound like a supercharger setup and a turbo charger setup are exclusive of each other...

[Schister66]

Originally Posted by OverAllComa

Sheesh...you kids make it sound like a supercharger setup and a turbo charger setup are exclusive of each other...

a properly sized turbo setup is more efficient than a supercharger...plain and simple

[OverAllComa]

Originally Posted by Schister66

a properly sized turbo setup is more efficient than a supercharger...plain and simple

Look up "exclusive" in the dictionary...

Not being exclusive means they can co-exist, often with interesting results, such as the Turbo Ion Redline of which I saw an interesting video a few months back. Exhaust spools the turbo, which compresses the intake air, which is fed into the eaton-type, for lovely a "VROOM" effect.