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Holden UTE ss

I am trying this agian because nothing showed up on my last post.
I want to know if I can buy a SS UTE and have it shipped to me in the U.S.? I would apreciat any help.

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Old 10-17-2002, 10:43 PM
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Very easily.
Paying in US $$ woudl make it quite a cheap purchase, and shipping and customs fee would only be about US$1000 I think.
And finding a dealer willing to do it would also be easy, again US $$ talk.


The only problem is would not be possible to make it road legal in US.
I believe your could get a tempory permit of some kind that would allow you to dirve it for 6mnths, but any longer than that would require that it meets all the emissions laws, and more importantly all the crash standards.
This means getting it crash tested.
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What about importing into the US as a partially completed car ie with no engine ie like they do with the kit cars? The LS1 is homologated in the US possibly with a different tune but it still could get through under the kit car rules ?

I think that's how you can get Shelby Cobras, Caterhams and such on the road there.
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Then theres the infamous fuel tank
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Thanks for the info guys its a start. what if i bought a used one?
and what infamous fuel tank?

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ok well I can forget that!

I have a friend that just brought a car over here. He said it cost him 3000.00 U.S. for shipping and about 1700.00 U.S. in dutys. Plus the car has to be up to our standards. and to be exempt it needs to be 25 years or older.
would cost me about 20,000 U.S. to get it to our standards

that would put the price of the car way up there!
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There is one more possibility - GM were looking at bringing in the UTE as an El Camino replacement provided that the Pontiac GTO (aka Holden Monaro) was reasonably successful.
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Thanks for the info guys its a start. what if i bought a used one?
and what infamous fuel tank?

Thanks, Brian
VU utes have the fuel tank behind the rear-axle- a big no-no in America
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I think that's how you can get Shelby Cobras, Caterhams and such on the road there.

I think they are built to meet US regs. And are also built in LHD.
Look at a US spec caterham, the road going version has some ugly bumbers on the frount. (all the ones Iv seen do anyway)

The Holden might get in under kit car regs, the same way the Hot Rods do in the US, but then you have to convince Holden Ausie to pull a partialy completed bodyshell of the production line and post it to you.

And I wouldn't stick an LS1 in it. oh, no Quad Cam Toyota V8 all the way!
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Well i really dont know what you americans are complaining about, sure you have had a big accients with tanks been placed behind the axle, but from what i know oh we have never had this type of problem. and with all our utes on the roads there never seems to be any problems at all. so quit winging!

Our UTES are awsome!

Our cars are AWSOME!

Wait til you get our new MONARO! well its what a GTO in america, you will be pleasntly supprised!
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Well i really dont know what you americans are complaining about, sure you have had a big accients with tanks been placed behind the axle, but from what i know oh we have never had this type of problem. and with all our utes on the roads there never seems to be any problems at all. so quit winging!

Our UTES are awsome!

Our cars are AWSOME!

Wait til you get our new MONARO! well its what a GTO in america, you will be pleasntly supprised!
Your cars are reasonable not Awesome



I think the Falcon, being the better car- should have hit the US first
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Old 10-20-2002, 01:31 AM
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YEs i think Americans may have imbrased the falcon better they seem to like ugly cars.
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Thanks Cruisey for stating your opinion.

The issue over fuel tanks in the US is nothing to do with a 'whinge' and more to do with:

- The litigation over personal injury in the US
- The mass of vehicles involved in collisions

The prolferation of heavier mass vehicles in the US particularly large SUVs and pickups mean that collisions are usually more severe in the case of nose to tail shunts.

There are several cases where US manufacturers have been sued in the US over the placement of the fuel tank relative to the rear axle. In the US, it is considered that the placement behind the rear axle is less safe than if it is mounted in front of the rear axle line - unless the manufacturer can prove substantial design reasons and offsetting features (which can be challenged in court as to their adequacy) no-one in the US - even GM would be in the right mind to try to do this.

BTW have you actually driven a Monaro CV8 I mean got in the driver's seat and driven one for a few days - in the city, in the country or considered paying for one out of your wallet ? For the cost of the CV8, there are a lot of choices and for the price of the HSV Coupe GTO there are even more...
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VU utes have the fuel tank behind the rear-axle- a big no-no in America
The above post is completely wrong, and I'm amazed just how you managed to come to that conclusion.

Have you ever bothered to look under one to check where the fuel tank actually is before writing such bullshit, or even looked closely enough at the VU ute externally to notice that the fuel filler is positioned well ahead of the rear wheelarch?

Why is the filler located where it is?

Because like 95% of all Australian utes ever made the VU ute fuel tank is in fact placed in the traditional spot behind the cabin between the load floor and floor pan, well ahead of the rear axle, in what must be the safest and least vulnerable place possible

I'm amazed none of you experts picked up on this

No Holden ute (or panel van) ever built has used a rear mounted tank
Holden utes have been made since 1953

No Ford Aus ute (or panel van) ever built has used a rear mounted tank
Ford utes have been made since 1934

Chrysler Valiant utes (Wayfarer) built between 1965 - 1971 also used a mid-mounted tank, as did the locally engineered Toyota Crown and Austin 1800 ute.

The only exception is 1971- 1978 Valiant ute (and later panel van) which did indeed use a rear mount
(There are no current plans to export 1971 - 1978 Valiant utes)

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Old 10-23-2002, 01:09 AM
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The above post is completely wrong, and I'm amazed just how you managed to come to that conclusion.

Have you ever bothered to look under one to check where the fuel tank actually is before writing such bullshit, or even looked closely enough at the VU ute externally to notice that the fuel filler is positioned well ahead of the rear wheelarch?

Why is the filler located where it is?

Because like 95% of all Australian utes ever made the VU ute fuel tank is in fact placed in the traditional spot behind the cabin between the load floor and floor pan, well ahead of the rear axle, in what must be the safest and least vulnerable place possible

I'm amazed none of you experts picked up on this

No Holden ute (or panel van) ever built has used a rear mounted tank
Holden utes have been made since 1953

No Ford Aus ute (or panel van) ever built has used a rear mounted tank
Ford utes have been made since 1934

Chrysler Valiant utes (Wayfarer) built between 1965 - 1971 also used a mid-mounted tank, as did the locally engineered Toyota Crown and Austin 1800 ute.

The only exception is 1971- 1978 Valiant ute (and later panel van) which did indeed use a rear mount
(There are no current plans to export 1971 - 1978 Valiant utes)

Well- I saw it on the Sedan- and thought the same would apply for the ute- musta been wrong- My mate has a VU 'S' ute- so I guess I'll have a look
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