The World is one Big Dream...

[J.T. Marlin]

How do we know ANYTHING exists? How do I know you exist or you know I do? The world is s complicated it is almost inconcievable. I think life is one big dream all based around yourself...

[ichthus]

Naw, couldn't be true. If that were the case you'd be driving a Ferrari and have Britney Spears, Jennifer Anniston, Katie Holmes and several other girls hanging all over you. Life is too unfair to be a dream....

[carman]

just think about Matrix, I mean there's no way anyone can disprove that idea..

[J.T. Marlin]

I actually think that I the most plausable way of explaining life. The Matrix has a good base of arguing... But what goes beyond the machines and stuff. I'm talking about a pure, endless dream. Not one you can control. Perhaps the things we call "dreams" are really reality and reality is the dream. We'll never know until death and dead people don't talk...

[GOD]

WOW thats scary

[JD@af]

You are absolutely right. As far as I am concerned, there is absolutely no way to prove the existence of matter, or anything else.. for that matter.

I think there could be no more enlightening experience to have a near death experience (and I don't mean like barely avoiding a fatal accident and "seeing your life flash before your eyes;" I mean where your heart stops and you are actually dead for a brief time before being revived) so that your have your foot in death's door. Maybe this would be very enlightening.. maybe it would be nothing but blankness. But just being able to taste the unknown, and have insight into what may be humanity's greatest mystery, would be incredibly rewarding.

EVERYONE wonders about what happens to a person after death. Not knowing is what keeps us from taking life for granted, but it is also kind of a tease at the same time. Fate's grand mockery of human life.

To the concept of life being an endless dream, I've always been fascinated by the notion of nothing existing. Try this: just picture the existence of nothing. Start with the earth, the solar system, the galaxy, etc. and picture none of it existing... nothing. A vast nothing. No light, no matter. I am having trouble conveying how powerful an idea this is, but the true notion of nothing is frankly scary and very difficult to grasp for me. Let me beat on this some more: NOTHING. How can there be nothing?

[Bean Bandit]

Think also about that: mostly what you see is what you believe. Now what you see is an interpretation of our mind. Evidence for that we have all the time. Look at your friends the 'picture' you have of a friend of yours isn't the sam as another has of him, so it goes on... I discussed about that subject 2 days ago with a couple of friends it's actualy endless (that's why we call it philosophy). The same is with all the laws sciense found during the centuries we assume they are correct 'cause they are correct in theire own circle of hypothesis - but what if the fundamental hypothesis we mad is wrong that would turn everything wrong...

[texan]

it's true all hard sciences are born from unwavering faith in the Scientific Method (which has worked many, many times over). However, if you do believe in the ability of logic to explain all things, there are certain things you CAN prove absolutely. The existence of one's self, of time and absolute truth are both provable through simple logical statements (think Archimedes' Point and other logic satements). The existence of an external world is an extension of that basic logic, although it's subjectively perceived state does make absolute knowledge of just what's out there difficult at best.

But here's a wake up call: Math & Logic works, the Theory of Relativity works, what is known about Quantum Physics works. Don't believe me? Then please explain how you were able to post here

[Lizard King]

Texan: Were you ever at carforums? (supercars.net)

[KennyH]

interesting theory... how can we prove that we aren't in something like the Truman Show then? To think that right now I could be in a coma in an operating room in Mars

[J.T. Marlin]

I've kinda noticed "Truman Show" occurences. I've noticed little things that kind of lean towards that philosophy...

[texan]

Lizard King- Nope, never been there. Isn't that the site some people have talked badly about?

[Lizard King]

Some do, its still a good place though.

[ichthus]

The fact that you exist is without question. Consciousness itself is proof of your own existence. The only true question would be whether or not your perceptions of reality are, in actuality, the same reality seen by everyone else...assuming that everyone else is not just an extension of your own consciousness and a world your mind has created.



[Edited by ichthus on 02-26-2001 at 11:41 AM]

[Bean Bandit]

Well that we can write here isn't actualy proof for the quantuum physic and there are some theories about it which bring up the doubt that thy could be wrong.