SMS Enzo super detail set

[SmokeyR67]

G'day all,

I was just wondering if anyone had heard if the SMS Enzo super detail sets are going to make it back into production?

I've browsed the magnificent new site and cant find any reference to it, so I'm a shattered man!

Any hope would be appreciated

Smokey

[Enzoenvy1]

Originally Posted by SmokeyR67

G'day all,

I was just wondering if anyone had heard if the SMS Enzo super detail sets are going to make it back into production?

I've browsed the magnificent new site and cant find any reference to it, so I'm a shattered man!

Any hope would be appreciated

Smokey

Last I heard was that it is finito!!!!

[slk320]

You can still find them scattered around on e-bay. Just keep checking.

[sensen]

I want this kit,too.

[CeeElle]

a couple of retailers have them... i've seen them around (strada sports? island collectibles? i don't remember exactly where, as i'm not interested in buying one) so they're there if you hunt for them.

[klutz_100]

Originally Posted by CeeElle

i'm not interested in buying one

What!?!? That has to be a "first"
I can't believe my ears!!

[CeeElle]

Originally Posted by klutz_100

What!?!? That has to be a "first"
I can't believe my ears!!

i know. i'm looking at the pile and thinking, "stop buying kits."

of course, Thunder Valley F1 is working on a super detail kit for the Lotus 99T...

[360spider]

I have built an Enzo with SMS kit, and I think it not worht the $$. The P/E parts were good, some turned parts were useful, but all the rest is... well, you'll be better of making it yourself. PE is still available for around $30 from various retailers.

[BVC500]

Originally Posted by 360spider

I have built an Enzo with SMS kit, and I think it not worht the $$. The P/E parts were good, some turned parts were useful, but all the rest is... well, you'll be better of making it yourself. PE is still available for around $30 from various retailers.

That's right Alex! You said the carbon fiber templates were too big and none provided for the monocuque.

I like Crazy Modeler's PE set. It has some nice parts, including firewall detail.

[mikemechanic]

Originally Posted by 360spider

I have built an Enzo with SMS kit, and I think it not worht the $$. The P/E parts were good, some turned parts were useful, but all the rest is... well, you'll be better of making it yourself. PE is still available for around $30 from various retailers.

I agree with Alex. I am building one right now (see my WIP in the street section) When I got the set I was a bit disappointed. The photoetching is very nice and the templated decals are ok but seem to be missing the most important visible parts. The resin calipers and turned aluminum parts are nice and add to the realism but could be easily made using other stuff.

Mike.

[MPWR]

I'm interested (but not terribly surprised) to hear these opinions on the SMS kit. I guess I've long thought that a builder that has the skill level that the SMS kit requires also has the skills to many of the same mods as well or better by scratchbuilding their own suppliments. This however is the first I've heard it said by people who have seen/built the SMS kit. I'm sure of course that the PE is lovely, but while the turned and resin parts are nice there are other ways of going about it that are in no way inferior.

I still haven't built my Enzo, but when I look at it my reaction is that the kit is still easily the best 1/24 kit I've ever seen (I haven't seent he FXX yet). It needs so little in addition to build up into a truely magnificent model. Which is maybe why I haven't built one yet- theres just so little else in that kit for me to do....

Incidentally, the photo reference CD that SMS put out for the Enzo is excellent, and is easily the most usefull addition that could have been put out for the Tamiya kit. I very much hope that SMS continues to release CD's like it for other cars.

[CeeElle]

Originally Posted by MPWR

I still haven't built my Enzo, but when I look at it my reaction is that the kit is still easily the best 1/24 kit I've ever seen

great. now i'm gonna want one.

[klutz_100]

An alternative point of view.

I have the set but haven't used it yet. I would agree that it is/was quite expensive and I do remember someone saying that his resin hood was too small and that some of the c/f templates were badly sized. I also myself pointed out to Matt a (minor) mistake in the instructions.

However, I think I would be far from calling this set useless or a complete waste of money. There is a lot of graet stuff in there: terrific p/e parts, 5(?) sheets of CF, turned dampers, turned filler caps and IIRC some oil coolers, wires and hoses. All in a nice box with a CD.

Yes it is expensive. Yes, there maybe less than perfect aspects (as with most kits). Yes, there are other alternatives available. None the less, I think the set has/had it's place in the market and if you add up the cost of buying all those parts seperately you are going to be getting fairly close in price I guess?

Also it's worth putting this set in it's historical context. IIRC when it was first released a couple of years ago, there weren't many (if any) alternatives availble.

As I mentioned, I'm not saying the set is perfect but let's not get carried away with criticism either.

Also, let's not expect suppliers of the aftermarket parts that we all crave to spend a lot of time and money in developing (in an labour expensive country like the USA) a complex set like that, get it all 100% right and then sell it for 2$. After all, MFH kits are darn expensive too and apparently they also make mistakes

[vrossi85]

Hi,

Well, the enzo will be my next major project. i have the detailed kit too and i find its really magnificent especially the turned parts even though its expensive. But what i can say is that its not perfect, due to only the decals, wich i tink the size n patterns are not good enough for the kit. But this prob can be solved easily. In the past sakatsu did came out some turned parts too, but tink they are out of production too.. Now with the out-production tag to the detailed kit, i tink its really worth the money already... in my opinion at least.. haha

Anyway, is there anyone here who knows where to get the turned oil coolers from sakatsu or wat? Im really need these parts.. hopefully someone can help mi out in this.. thanks..

Ro

[Enzoenvy1]

Yes the resin hood is too small. Yes there are no decals for the monocoque. Yes the braided hose is not the best. Yes the etch on the little rubber sheet basically sucks. Yes it was expensive. But for people who are not lucky enough to have a lathe/mill/engineering degree or a ton of money, the SMS Enzo set is a great deal. The reference CD is perfect for the whole model, and with a little ingenuity you can make your own monocoque decals and additional wiring. For the beginner to the "advanced" building accessories, it is worth every penny.